9.875, Qs: Yiddish/Cockney,Names,NLP,SOV Adverbs

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-9-875. Sat Jun 13 1998. ISSN: 1068-4875.

Subject: 9.875, Qs: Yiddish/Cockney,Names,NLP,SOV Adverbs

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1)
Date:  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:47:08 +0100
From:  "Gaby Charing" <gcharing at dial.pipex.com>
Subject:  Influence of Yiddish on Cockney

2)
Date:  Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:56:55 +0200
From:  "Juan Carlos Azkoitia" <zozocucs at teleline.es>
Subject:  Names translations

3)
Date:  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:33:44 +0800
From:  "Sun Honglin" <sunhl at public.bta.net.cn>
Subject:  Qs: What does "ontology" mean in NLP?

4)
Date:  Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:00:19 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Thomas Ernst <ternst at rci.rutgers.edu>
Subject:  SOV Adverbs

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Date:  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:47:08 +0100
From:  "Gaby Charing" <gcharing at dial.pipex.com>
Subject:  Influence of Yiddish on Cockney

In British English, "The boy done good!" is a cliche usually
attributed to football managers.

"Done" instead of "did" is cockney (i.e. London working class)
English.  But this sentence doesn't mean "The boy did good" (as in
good works).  It means "The boy did well".

I have always believed that that this construction is an example of
the influence on cockney of Yiddish.  Does anyone know if I'm right?

Gaby Charing
London, UK


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Date:  Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:56:55 +0200
From:  "Juan Carlos Azkoitia" <zozocucs at teleline.es>
Subject:  Names translations


Concerning the articles about translating names, mostly royalty names,
is there any research about this topic? And about toponyms, and the
apparently arbitrary tendency to translate ones and not others?
Beijing but Moscow,Varanasi but Prague...? Translation seems to happen
mostly among toponyms rather than among names. Where do this
translations tend to come from?

Juan Carlos Azkoitia
Barcelona, Spain


-------------------------------- Message 3 -------------------------------

Date:  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:33:44 +0800
From:  "Sun Honglin" <sunhl at public.bta.net.cn>
Subject:  Qs: What does "ontology" mean in NLP?


     The word "ontology" is often used in NLP field recently,but I
don't know what's the exact meaning of it.For example,in the following
sentence:

**********************************************
The design of the envisioned NLU module will
involve deciding what existing technology can be used (e.g., for
robust parsing), extending and modifying components as necessary, and
constructing appropriate linguistic knowledge sources such as
grammars, lexicons, and ontologies.
*******************************************
Please help me.
Thank you in advance.

                Sun Honglin
E-mail:sunhl at blcu.edu.cn


-------------------------------- Message 4 -------------------------------

Date:  Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:00:19 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Thomas Ernst <ternst at rci.rutgers.edu>
Subject:  SOV Adverbs

A quest for references:

	I would like to find references for material describing the
distribution of manner adverbials, and/or arguing for their base
position(s), in SOV languages (e.g. Japanese, Korean, Turkish).  I
will post a summary if there is sufficient interest.

Tom Ernst
ternst at rci.rutgers.edu

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