10.1199, Qs: Tone, Plosives & Affricates, Indonesian List

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-10-1199. Thu Aug 12 1999. ISSN: 1068-4875.

Subject: 10.1199, Qs: Tone, Plosives & Affricates, Indonesian List

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1)
Date:  Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Leonard Herzenberg <mainecoon34 at yahoo.com>
Subject:  Tone

2)
Date:  Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Jorge Guitart <guitart at acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject:  Queries about IPA's palatal plosives and affricates

3)
Date:  Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:53:15 +0700
From:  Uri Tadmor <uri at pacific.net.id>
Subject:  Indonesian list

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:  Leonard Herzenberg <mainecoon34 at yahoo.com>
Subject:  Tone



I have heard of an argument that the Yabema language case of Consonants
is influenced by Tones. This contradicts Hyman's idea about the
possibility only of Tones being influenced by consonants. Does anyone
know who wrote this theory and where it is written?

       Thank you so very much for attention,

                         ever truly yours,
                           L.Guertsenberg


-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Jorge Guitart <guitart at acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject:  Queries about IPA's palatal plosives and affricates


The Handbook of the International Phonetic Association: A Guide to the Use
of the International Phonetic Alphabet (Cambridge Univ
Press, 1999--no authors listed) illustrates the consonants and vowels of
29 languages. Of these only four, Czech, Galician, Turkish, and Irish are
described as having palatal plosives. Hungarian is described as having
them only in formal speech, and Hungarian is the only language of those
illustrated that has palatal affricates. In all other languages that have
affricates these are either dental or alveolar or post alveolar or palato
alveolar. I have several questions:

1.  Is it accurate to say that in generative terms coronal affricates
are common and dorsal affricates are rare in the sample provided by the
IPA Handbook?
2. Is the IPA Handbook sample representative of what occurs in languages
in general?
3. If the answer to both 1 and 2 is yes, why would coronal affricates
be common and both dorsal stops and dorsal affricates rare?
4. Given that no variety of Spanish is included in the sample, does
anybody know whether IPA considers that Castilian has palatal plosives or
that it has palatal affricates?

Thank you.

Jorge Guitart
SUNY Buffalo


-------------------------------- Message 3 -------------------------------

Date:  Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:53:15 +0700
From:  Uri Tadmor <uri at pacific.net.id>
Subject:  Indonesian list

Two months ago, we attempted to put together a list of linguists working
on languages of Indonesia.  However, following our initial announcment
our university was closed down for three weeks during the Inodnesian
election campaign.  Unfortunately, our server was also down for that
period, so that the replies bounced.  Now that things have quieted down
a bit, we are making a second attempt.  If you are interested in being
included in the list, please complete and send the following
information:

Name:
First language:
Affiliation/title:
Mailing address:
Contact number:
Email address:
Interests (geographical/specific languages):
Interests (theoretical):
Title of MA thesis and/or PhD dissertation
Year obtained:
University:

If possible, please attach a recent CV and list of pulbication.

Send to: <bkaswanti at fkip.atmajaya.ac.id>


Yours sincerely,
Bambang Kaswanti Purwo
Universitas Atma Jaya
Jakarta Indonesia
bkaswanti at fkip.atmajaya.ac.id (Bambang Kaswanti)

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