11.1819, Qs: Etymology of "Skivvies",Survey on Spanish

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Subject: 11.1819, Qs: Etymology of "Skivvies",Survey on Spanish

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Date:  Sat, 26 Aug 2000 06:38:30 -0400
From:  "Douglas G. Wilson" <douglas at nb.net>
Subject:  Etymology of the word "Skivvies"

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Date:  Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:40:20 -0300
From:  "Leo Ferres" <lferres at chat.carleton.ca>
Subject:  Survey on the Aspect of Agency in Spanish

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Date:  Sat, 26 Aug 2000 06:38:30 -0400
From:  "Douglas G. Wilson" <douglas at nb.net>
Subject:  Etymology of the word "Skivvies"


I am researching the etymology and connections of the word
'skivvies'/'skivvy' = 'underwear'.

I have consulted the major dictionaries (none of which gives even a
speculative etymology) and conventional reference books, and I've
searched the Web. I have seen various spellings: 'scivey', 'skibbies', etc.

This word is perhaps more interesting than one might think initially.
Can anyone help me?

In particular, has there been a thorough examination of this word in the
published literature?

The word 'skivvies' in the sense '(naval) underwear' goes back at least
to 1927 in the US.

'Skivvy' is also used for 'pullover' (shirt/sweater), particularly in
Australia.

The singular noun 'skivvy' apparently = 'T-shirt' in the US Navy.

Possible connections/conflations include:

'skivvy' = 'flunky' ('menial laborer') [mostly non-US, ca. 1900 to date]
'Skib'/'Skibby' = 'Jap[anese]' [derogatory US military slang, WW II]
'skibby'/'skippy' = 'Asian prostitute' [US slang, from early 1900's]
'skippy'/'skibby' = '[effeminate] homosexual [man]' [US slang]
'[get] the skivvy on ...' = '[get] the skinny on ...' = '[get] the facts
on ...' [US slang]
'skivvy girl' = ? [US military slang, Vietnam]
'skivvy house' = 'whorehouse' [US military slang]
'skivvy niners' = US Air Force intelligence unit personnel (including
linguists!) [USAF slang]
'skivvies' = 'sandals'/'slippers' (?= 'scuffies') [US slang]
etc., etc.

I would be interested in information on any of these items and any
similar ones.

At least one possible connection outside the English language suggests
itself.

Specific questions:

(1) Is there (or was there ever) a slang expression 'skivvy' meaning
something like 'swabby' or 'sailor'?

(2) Was "Skivvies" ever *used* as a trademark (registered or not) for
underwear? If so, when, where, and by whom?

I will present a summary.

-  Doug Wilson



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Date:  Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:40:20 -0300
From:  "Leo Ferres" <lferres at chat.carleton.ca>
Subject:  Survey on the Aspect of Agency in Spanish

Dear fellow linguists;

I am currently working on a particular aspect of agency and I need native
speakers of Spanish to provide some judgements as to the interpretation of
some sentences. Those of you who are interested in doing this, please go to
http://chat.carleton.ca/~lferres/survey/survey.htm. The survey takes around
3 (three) minutes to complete. Thank you very much for your time.

Best, Leo Ferres

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