11.1316, Qs: Lang/Children's Rhyme, Numbers/Crosslinguistic

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Subject: 11.1316, Qs: Lang/Children's Rhyme, Numbers/Crosslinguistic

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Date:  Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:51:58 -0400
From:  Dawn M Ash <dmash at MIT.EDU>
Subject:  Family children's rhyme of unknown language

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Date:  Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:40 -0400 (EDT)
From:  decaen at chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
Subject:  numbers crosslinguistically?

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Date:  Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:51:58 -0400
From:  Dawn M Ash <dmash at MIT.EDU>
Subject:  Family children's rhyme of unknown language

Dear linguists,

I am a linguistics student at MIT.  There is a ditty in my family that
has been told from mother to child at least as far back as my
grandmother's grandmother, back in Milejczyce (pronounced Mileychich),
Russia, a small twon near Bialystok.  Our family spoke Yiddish, but
this ditty is certainly not Yiddish, although it may have originally
been, having been misheard/misrepeated by the children when they grew
up (perhaps?).  The ditty is said almost in a singing fashion, and is
accompanied by a certain way of tickling the child's hand.  If anyone
can help me identify the language, I would appreciate it greatly.

Saku navu ranu
Kachkih navu drilla
Dimetele (x5 or so).

Thanks,
Dawn Ash
dmash at mit.edu


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Date:  Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:40 -0400 (EDT)
From:  decaen at chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
Subject:  numbers crosslinguistically?

is there a reference work on number systems 1-20 crosslinguistically? i'm
especially interested in systems where 6-9 are represented compositionally
as 5+1, 5+2, 5+3. also, i'd be interested to know if basque 6-9 have
ever been analyzed this way, suffix -tzi < *ortzi, cf. bortz "five".
thanks.
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