16.2638, Qs: Use of Imperatives; Egyptian Consonantal Shifts

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Subject: 16.2638, Qs: Use of Imperatives; Egyptian Consonantal Shifts

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1)
Date: 12-Sep-2005
From: Julia Kuznetsova < julia.kuznetsova at yale.edu >
Subject: Non-standard Use of Imperative Forms 

2)
Date: 12-Sep-2005
From: Gary Gregoricka < gregoricka at yale.edu >
Subject: Consonantal Shifts in Middle Egyptian and Coptic 

	
-------------------------Message 1 ---------------------------------- 
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:39:37
From: Julia Kuznetsova < julia.kuznetsova at yale.edu >
Subject: Non-standard Use of Imperative Forms 
 

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I am investigating a list of Russian constructions using quasi-imperative
forms. Quasi-imperative forms are forms that look like imperative forms on
the surface, but have different meaning . This meaning is not typical
meaning of imperative, such as command, instruction, request, warning, etc.
In Russian  all quasi-imperative constructions have mood and modality
meanings, e. g. conditional and unexpectedness

Conditional:

 Ne polez' on tuda, ni?ego  by ne slu?ilos'
 not clamber:imp.2sg   he  there nothing  subj  not happened

 If he did not clamber there, nothing would happened.

Unexpectedness:

Kupili sebe novyj xolodil'nik, a on voz'mi da i slomajsja.

bought:past.3pl self new refrigerator  but it take:imp.2sg and and break:
imp.2sg

[We] bought a new refrigerator, but it became broken at once.

I am looking for information about such use of imperative forms in other
languages, I will be very grateful for any information of a language which
use imperative forms to express non-imperative meanings.

Thank you, Julia Kuznetsova. 

Linguistic Field(s): Morphology
                     Typology



	
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:39:40
From: Gary Gregoricka < gregoricka at yale.edu >
Subject: Consonantal Shifts in Middle Egyptian and Coptic 

	

I am writing my senior thesis on historical change between Middle Egyptian
and Coptic, the second and fifth stages of the Egyptian language.  I am
interested in phonological changes--in particular, the collapse from what
egyptologists refer to as the four h's (phonetically, four voiceless
fricatives) in Middle Egyptian to the /h/ or /sh/ in Coptic.  I am curious
to discover whether any phonological environments would trigger the change
to either /h/ or /sh/.

Is anyone aware of journal articles or books that may be of use to me? 
Thanks so much! 

Linguistic Field(s): General Linguistics
                     Historical Linguistics
                     Language Description
                     Linguistic Theories
                     Phonetics
                     Phonology
                     Text/Corpus Linguistics

Subject Language(s): Coptic (cop)
                     Egyptian (egy)






 



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