LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 23.JAN.2000 (05) [A/D/E]

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From: root at artemis.talo.nl; Dr.J.C.Woestenburg [talo at xs4all.nl]; on behalf of
Dr.J.C.Woestenburg [talo at xs4all.nl]
Subject: LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 22.JAN.2000 (03) [A/E]

Petoor oupa / Gerda

Beste Low-Landers
't Woord petoor oupa is miskien verbastering van 't Nederlandse woord
"betovergrootvader".
In die Afrikaanse taal beteken 't:  ooroorgrootvader, ook
betoorgrootvader of voor 't vergelyk ooroor-oupa, betoor-oupa.
Die term bet is in 't Middelnederlands die komparatief by "wel" en
"goet"
(bet geboren, bet sijn met, hooger aangeschreven zijn bij
(Middelnederlansch Handwoordenboek, J.Verdam, 1964).
Van Dale noem die term "bet": (verouderd) als "beter".
Die term "bet" kom voor in 't Afrikaans maar "pet" het ek nie in die
Afrikaanse woordeboeke nie gesien, en miskien is 't ook nie 'n
korrek woord volgens die gangbare spelling. Ek het ook nie gehoor van 'n
klankwissel b -> p
in Afrikaans.

Jaap Woestenburg

Lowlands-L Administrator wrote:

> From: Gerda [gpieterse at intekom.co.za]
> Subject: Afrikaans - word origins
>
> Afrikaans - word origins:
> PETOOR OUPA
>
> >Vriende,
> > Ek het al dikwels die benaming  PETOOR OUPA teengekom.
> >Die besondere betekenis daarvan is ek nie seker van, is daar
> > miskien van U wat my kan help.
> >Ek vermoed dit is 'n Nederlandse woord.
> >       Dankie,
> >       Abraham Kruger
>
> This question came my way via the SA Rootsweb genealogy mailling list.
> My answer to Abraham was that it may have come from the word
> 'betovergrootvader' as we use it in Netherlandic. ie the father of
> one's great grandfather.
>
> Bet=pet
>  over=oor
>  grootvader=oupa.
>
> Gives us Petoor Oupa
>
> Would I be correct in this assumption? Has anybody ever heard of this
> word before?  I couldn't find it in my dictionary
>
> Regards
>
> Gerda

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