LL-L: "Monarchs" LOWLANDS-L, 31.MAY.2000 (01) [E]

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From: john feather [johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk]
Subject: Monarchs

Colin Wilson wrote, quoting me:

>>BTW, we Brits were recently glued (or buttered) to our TV sets watching a
>>series about another Queen Elizabeth - Good Queen Bess, our Virgin Queen.

>Just a brief factual correction: the Queen Elizabeth mentioned above
>was actually a queen of England/Wales, and the idea of people as
>Brits or British had yet to come.

>The current queen is the United Kingdom's first and only reigning
>Queen Elizabeth.

A subtle point - too subtle perhaps. In the first place, Good Queen Bess was
Queen of Ireland as well. Second, her successor's styles and titles begin "Her
Most Excellent Majesty ELIZABETH THE SECOND ... by the Grace of God, of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other Realms
and Territories Queen, ..." so she evidently has a firm opinion on the
subject.

I once commented that the travellers who famously recorded some words of
Crimean Gothic couldn't have been Belgians because Belgium hadn't been
invented yet. Ron hinted that I was being pedantic.

John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk

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From: Jan De Craemere [rycobel at compuserve.com]
Subject: LL-L: "Monarchs" (was "Spiritual aspects") LOWLANDS-L, 30.MAY.2000
(01) [E]

Colin Wilson wrote:

>>BTW, we Brits were recently glued (or buttered) to our TV sets watching
>>a series about another Queen Elizabeth - Good Queen Bess, our Virgin
Queen.
>
>Just a brief factual correction: the Queen Elizabeth mentioned above
>was actually a queen of England/Wales, and the idea of people as
>Brits or British had yet to come.
>
>The current queen is the United Kingdom's first and only reigning
>Queen Elizabeth.
>
>Colin Wilson.

Is it not like this:

Britain = England + Wales
Great Britain = Britain + Scotland
United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) = Great Britain +
Northern Ireland
?

Jan De Craemere

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