LL-L: "Help needed" LOWLANDS-L, 16.AUG.2001 (01) [E]

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From: Henry Pijffers <henry.pijffers at saxnot.com>
Subject: LL-L: "Help needed" LOWLANDS-L, 14.AUG.2001 (02) [E]

Ron wrote:
>
>Are these the iron clamps of which one sees the (oftentimes ornamental) ends
>sticking out of the walls of old buildings, those that I (naively?) think of
>as holding a building together?  If so, these are also commonly seen in
>Northern Germany.  However, I do not know what they are called in Low Saxon
>(Low German) or German.  Does anyone else?  _Anker_?
>
In my area we call them "ankers", or "muyrankers". The bits sticking out
have no special name as far as I know.

>Henry wrote (above):
>
>> I think that should be "verzonken" (sunk).
>> Like screws, ankers can be "verzonken",
>> i.e. they do not stick out from the surface.
>
>That makes sense.  "Embedded" perhaps?

Yes, embedded is the correct term for that.

regards,
Henry

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Help needed

Thanks, Henry.

> In my area we call them "ankers", or "muyrankers".

Then I'd expect the same in the North Saxon dialects of Germany:

* Muuranker ~ Mueranker ~ Müüranker ~ Müeranker

... depending on the dialect (/muur+anker/ ~ /müür+anker/) and spelling
convention (where _Müüranker_ ~ _Müeranker_ is identical with your
_muyranker_).  So, literally translated we are dealing with a "(wall) anchor,"
and this word is indeed used in English.  The cognate _Maueranker_ is used in
German, and _muuranker_ is used in Dutch, as a web search revealed.

BTW, Low Saxon (Low German) _Anker_ has either masculine or neuter gender (_de
Anker_ or _dat Anker_), and its plural form has either zero (_de Anker_) or
/-s/ (_de Ankers_), all in dialectal variation.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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