LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 09.JAN.2001 (08) [E]

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From: Margaret Tarbet [oneko at mindspring.com]
Subject: "Etymology"

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:44:11 -0800, Ron wrote:

> I assume
>the woman you heard actually spoke Low Saxon, because _kiek_ is not even used
>in Missingsch (i.e., Northern German on Low Saxon substrate).  In Missingsch
>and in various other types of North German dialect you pronounce it [k`Uk]
>even though you usually write it _guck_.  (If she had spoken Missingsch or
>"broad" Northern German, the woman would have said, _Kuck ma!_.  Pronouncing
>it [gUk] is decidedly "Southern," as is using _schau_ (_schauen_), though more
>and more Northerners seem to be adopting these now when they want to sound
>particularly well-educated.)

I suspect she was mixing LS with G, because I could understand bits
quite clearly, though the whole thing left me confused.  ('I
understood every word, but not the sentence' sort of thing)

She was the first I heard say 'kiek', but not the last.  But I did
almost invariably hear 'kuck(en)', though, and for ages had no idea
how to spell it.  I fossicked all the plausible k--- spellings, but
never imagined it would be spelt 'g' instead.

Sandy argues that 'keik' doesn't map onto 'kijken' and I wouldn't
presume to gainsay.  But, as I learned the word, 'keik' certainly
seems to map well onto 'look' and 'kiek' in the sense of 'take a
look'.  'kiek mal', 'have a look', 'hae a wee keik'.

Margaret

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