LL-L: "Administrativa" LOWLANDS-L, 28.JUN.2001 (05) [E]

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 L O W L A N D S - L * 28.JUN.2001 (05) * ISSN 189-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Administrativa

Dear Lowlanders,

Several people joined us recently.  Welcome to all of them!  For their benefit
and for the benefit of those who have been around longer and are still
ignoring and breaking the rules, I am posting the rules and guidelines again.
I expect them to be followed.  As some have already experienced, I can be
pretty hard-nosed and do not hesitate to reject posting submissions from
repeat-offenders.  The most common offenses are these:

1. Just hitting the "Reply" button and letting entire LL-L issues dangle as
quotes.

2. Crediting "Lowlands-L <sassisch at yahoo.com> instead of the actual writers
for quoted material.

2. Not giving one's (full) name.

3. Sending technical requests as posting submissions rather than to the
listmaster (sassisch at yahoo.com).

In the masthead and footer of each issue you find relevant addresses,
including the URL for the rules and guidelines.  Please use them.

Another thing: LL-L is a discussion forum, not a chat group.  Please post only
contributions that benefit the entire List.  While humor does have its place
and we occasionally enjoy a more lighthearted tone in discussions, we can do
without postings that amount to nothing more than jokes and jeers from the
peanut gallery.

Thanks for your cooperation,
Reinhard/Ron

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Etiquette:

-  All exchanges must be in a courteous and friendly tone.
-  Personal communication should be conducted privately.
-  Participants may announce availability of pertinent publications, software,
conferences, programs or employment, but no commercial advertising
-  is permitted.
-  Results of searches conducted through Lowlands-L should be posted in
summary form with acknowledgement of all contributions.
-  There is free choice of language in Lowlands-L postings, but the following
language varieties are preferred: Afrikaans, Dutch, Zeelandic (Zeeuws and
Western Flemish), Limburgish, Frisian (any variety), Low Saxon, English and
Scots. You need not limit this to standard varieties; postings in any dialect
are welcome.

Subscription:

*  Unsubscribing:
Send the message "signoff lowlands-l" to listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org.
If you have changed your address and have been forwarding your mail, the
server will not recognize your new address. In that case you need to write to
sassisch at yahoo.com and ask to be takn off the list, giving me your name and
your old address (the one under which you subscribed). What several
subscribers have been doing instead of signing off is blocking the LL-L from
their email accounts. This is totally and utterly rude! It results in the list
manager receiving gezillions of error messages and having to figure out who
the person was in case they had changed their address. These people go
straight onto the black list, and if they ever decide to return to LL-L and
apply (which has happened) ... well, the word they will receive, if any, will
most most certainly not be "welcome."

Resubscribing:
It has happened many times that former Lowlands-L subscribers want to return
to the List. They need to write to sassisch at yahoo.com and ask to be
resubscribed.  They should do so like a new subscriber by answering the
questions listed on the homepage or on the pages in the various languages.

Leave of absence:
Since LL-L subscription is by application only, our archive site
(http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html) does not have the
subscribe/unsubscribe options that also allow for setting vacation mode.
Therefore we will have to use the "crude" method: you need to unsubscribe (see
above) and upon your return ask to be resubscribed (see above).  In that case
you need not answer the questions you answered when you first subscribed.

Posting to the List:

*  How to post:
Only subscribers can post messages to the List. Posting is "controlled," i.e.,
postings go through an approval process and upon approval appear bundled with
other postings in issues with specific subject lines.  To submit a message for
posting, send the text to LOWLANDS-L at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG.

*  Keep discussions relevant.
Please remember that we deal with the "Lowlands" area. This is not synonymous
with "Germanic" but excludes German, Luxemburgish and the North Germanic
languages (Scandinavian, Icelandic and Faroese). It is perfectly fine to
mention these related languages, and any other languages and their cultures
for that matter, especially wherever there are parallels or connections that
are useful in understanding topics that are within our main subject area.
However, the focus must remain on the Lowlands languages and cultures. It is
all right to sidestep within a discussion, as long as the discussion returns
to the original focus. However, this should not be seen as an excuse to start
a new, extraneous subject line.

*  Keep subjects separate.
Do not submit a single posting in which more than one topic is discussed.
("Topic" equals "subject line".) This also applies when you respond to other
people's postings.

*  Stick to the subject title.
If you start an entirely new discussion, you are welcome to create your own
subject title. The administrator may or may not adopt that title. (The more
general the title is the better is the chance that he/she will adopt it;
otherwise he/she will generalize it.) If you respond or add to previous
postings in an already existing subject line, please use the already existing
title of that discussion threat as your subject heading. For instance, if the
current title is "Language varieties" and you respond to what someone wrote
about vowels in Flemish dialects, don't choose something like "Long o and u in
the dialects of Southern Flanders and speech habits of young Belgians" as your
subject heading; stick to "Language varieties," if you like it or not. This
facilitates sorting submissions at the administrative end. If the
administrator feels that the discussion has changed or a new discussion has
branched off an existing one, it is the his/her job to give it a new title.

*  Edit quotes.
When you reply to what someone else has written, don't just hit the reply
button and write your reply before or after the quoted text. Edit out whatever
is not essential, most definitely the LL-L masthead and footer. (They are
going to stay, for good reasons.) Also, don't do what some do: they follow
this rule nicely until they run out of things to say, and then they let the
rest of the quoted text dangle behind their "signature."

*  Give credit.
Don't forget to say who the writer of the text is to which you are responding.
(When you hit the reply button your system most likely credits the
administrator or "Lowlands-L," the sender, even if they did not write it.)

*  Identify yourself.
Anonymous postings are not permitted and will be ignored if anonymous
submissions keep being sent despite a warning. Readers must be able to see who
wrote a posting. Many people use automatic "signatures;" they are great, as
long as they are not attached. (No attachments allowed!) Otherwise, your name
must appear either with your email address or at the end of your contribution.
It is all right to have your surname appear in one place and your given name
in another place within the same posting.

*  Do not send attachments.
Attachments (i.e., attached documents or pictures), including signature
attachments, are unacceptable. The list server strips most attachments off
submissions and would probably remove the rest during final distribution if
the administrator did not remove them already.  Anyway, sending attachments
without prior approval from recipients is a big no-no in "netiquette." So,
please put everything you wish to convey inside your email submissions.

By all means, please feel free to submit postings to LL-L, even if you have
never done so before. If you make a gross mistake, the administrator will tell
you so privately and will have you resubmit it correctly before anyone else
sees it -- which isn't the end of the world. If the mistake is not so bad, the
adminsitrator will correct it once or twice in the hope that you will
eventually get the hint.

If you have never posted but are considering getting into it, it's a good idea
to watch the "masters," the "old hands" or "veterans" on LL-L, namely those
subscribers who contribute frequently and have been around for a long time (a
handful of them since the very beginning in early 1995!)

Good luck, and keep us posted!

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