LL-L: "Administrativa" LOWLANDS-L, 08.MAY.2001 (02) [E]

Tue May 8 14:44:29 UTC 2001

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 L O W L A N D S - L * 08.MAY.2001 (01) * ISSN 189-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Administrativa

Dear Lowlanders,

Please allow me to remind you of the rules of subscribing/unsubscribing and
postings.

(1) SUBSCRIBING/UNSUBSCRIBING

The Northern Hemisphere vacation (holiday) season will soon be upon us.
Traditionally, this is the time when several LL-L subscribers wonder what to
do about their subscriptions.  Since LL-L subscription is by application only,
our archive site (http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html)
does not have the subscribe/unsubscribe options that also allow for setting
vacation mode.  Therefore we will have to use the "crude" method: you need to
send the message "signoff lowlands-l" to listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org,
and after your return you will need to write to me, giving me your name and
email address, and letting me know that you are a returning subscriber (which
means that you need not have to fill out the "form" again).  If you have
changed your address and have been forwarding your mail, the server will not
recognize your new address.  In that case you need to write to me ask me to
take you off, giving me your name and your old address (the one under which
you subscribed).  What several subscribers have been doing instead of signing
off is blocking the LL-L from their email accounts.  This is totally and
utterly rude!  It results in me getting gezillions of error messages and
having to figure out who the person was in case they had changed their
address.  These people go straight onto my black list, and if they ever decide
to return to LL-L and apply (which has happened) ... well, the word I'll use
is most certainly not "welcome."

(2) POSTING RULES

The most frequent mistakes are these:

* Not giving the poster's full name
* Sending submissions with attachments
  (I will not open attachments, no matter from whom they are, and I
  most certainly will not pass them on to the List.)
* Insufficient editing of quotes (See below)

PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW THESE RULES:

(1) KEEP DISCUSSIONS RELEVANT.  Please remember that we deal with the
"Lowlands" area.  This is not synonymous with "Germanic" but excludes German,
Luxemburgish and the North Germanic languages (Scandinavian, Icelandic and
Faroese).  It is perfectly fine to mention these related languages, and any
other languages and their cultures for that matter, especially wherever there
are parallels or connections that are useful in understanding topics that are
within our main subject area.  However, the focus must remain on the Lowlands
languages and cultures.  It is all right to sidestep within a discussion, as
long as the discussion returns to the original focus.  However, this should
not be seen as an excuse to start a new, extraneous subject line.

(2) KEEP SUBJECTS SEPARATE.  Do not submit a single posting in which more than
one topic is discussed.  ("Topic" equals "subject line".)  This also applies
when you respond to other people's postings.

(3) STICK TO THE SUBJECT TITLE.  If you start an entirely new discussion, you
are welcome to create your own subject title.  I may or may not adopt that
title.  (The more general the title is the better is the chance that I'll
adopt it; otherwise I'll generalize it.)  If you respond or add to previous
postings in an already existing subject line, please use the already existing
title of that discussion threat as your subject heading. For instance, if the
current title is "Language varieties" and you respond to what someone wrote
about vowels in Flemish dialects, don't choose something like "Long o and u in
the dialects of Southern Flanders and speech habits of young Belgians" as your
subject heading; stick to "Language varieties," if you like it or not. This
facilitates sorting submissions at my end.  If I feel that the discussion has
changed or a new discussion has branched off an existing one, it is *my* job
to give it a new title.

(4) EDIT QUOTES.  When you reply to what someone else has written, don't just
hit the reply button and write your reply before or after the quoted text.
EDIT OUT WHATEVER IS NOT ESSENTIAL, most definitely the LL-L masthead and
footer.  (They are going to stay, for good reasons.)  Also, don't do what some
do: they follow this rule nicely until they run out of things to say, and then
they let the rest of the quoted text dangle behind their "signature."

(5) GIVE CREDIT.  Don't forget to say who the writer of the text is to which
you are responding.  (When you hit the reply button your system most likely
credits me or "Lowlands-L," the sender, even if I did not write it.)

(6) IDENTIFY YOURSELF.  Anonymous postings are not permitted and will be
ignored.  Readers must be able to see who wrote a posting.  Many people have
automatic "signatures;" they are great, as long as they are not attached. (No
attachments allowed!)  Otherwise, your name must appear either with your email
address or at the end of your contribution.  It is all right to have your
surname appear in one place and your given name in another place within the
same posting.

(7) DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS.  Attachments (i.e., attached documents or
pictures), including signature attachments, are unacceptable.  The list server
strips most attachments off submissions and would probably remove the rest
during final distribution if I did not remove them already.  Anyway, sending
attachments without prior approval from recipients is a big no-no in
"netiquette."  So, please put everything you wish to convey inside your email
submissions.

By all means, please feel free to submit postings to LL-L, even if you have
never done so before.  If you make a gross mistake, I'll tell you so privately
and will have you resubmit it correctly before anyone else sees it -- which
isn't the end of the world. If the mistake is not so bad, I'll correct it once
or twice in the hope that you will get the hint eventually.

If you have never posted but are considering getting into it, it's a good idea
to watch the "masters," the "old hands" or "veterans" on LL-L, namely those
subscribers who contribute frequently and have been around for a long time (a
handful of them since the very beginning in 1995!) Good luck, and keep us
posted!

Regards,
Reinhard "Ron" Hahn
Lowlands-L

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