LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 29.SEP.2001 (01) [E/LS]

[Sandy Fleming]

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From: Helge Tietz [helgetietz at yahoo.com]
Subject: Question: twee and twaai in Northern Low Saxon

Moin-moin,

Ik heff all een tid lang oeverligg of de twee woer
"twee" (foer t.b. "nummer twee") un "twaai" (foer t.b.
"dat glass is twaai") een un dat soelvige word suend
edder of dat twee verscheedene wuddeln hett. Weet een
wat daar oever ?

In Northern Low Saxon we have the word "twee" for
number two and "twaai" for something is broken as e.g.
"dat glass is twaai". I wonder whether both words stem
from the same root or whether they are derived
differently and if yes, where is "twaai" coming from ?

Groeten

Helge

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From: Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl [Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl]
Subject: Etymology

> > * fastelabend subst.m. "carnival (Fasching)" (= low saxon?)
> > NS _Fastelavend_ ~ _Fasselavend_ etc. id. (< _fasten_ 'to fast' +
> > _Avend_ 'evening'?; cf. German _Fastnacht_ id.)

> interesting, as far as I know, in WP _fastenabend_ is preferred
> (although Herrmann-Winter has _fastelabend_ only). The  CP -el-suffix
seems
> to be more archaic.

The Limburgisch word for carnival is also _vastelaovend_, so with -el-suffix

Regards,
Mathieu

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