LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.08.27 (02) [E]
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From: "Mathieu. van Woerkom" <Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl>
Subject: lexicon
Last week, Luc Hellinckx wrote:
> Today, I heard this fascinating report on the radio that announced
> the unearthing of the prehistoric remains (thought to be 30 000
> years old) of a hyena in a Limburgish grave.
>
> That's why I started wondering which words are used in our
> dialects, to describe the wailing sound that dogs (and coyotes,
> wolves and hyena's) often make (at night).
>
> In my local dialect (Brabantish), we use the word "kjoemmern"
> (< frequentative form of "cumen", a Middle Dutch verb meaning
> "to moan"...cognate of German "kaum", "barely" (E)).
In Limburgish, I would call it "hule" (cognate of Dutch "huilen"). By
the
way,
the word for "crying" of a dog (for instance when hit) is called
"jónkere",
whereas the crying of a cat is called "galdere".
However, in Limburg the word "kaum" for "barely" also exists (used
side-by-side with "kaolik").
Regards,
Mathieu
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology
In German, hyenas don't howl. As far as I know, they "giggle":
_kichern_. Analogously, I would probably use something like _gnickern_,
_hucheln_, _gluddern_ or _kucheln_ in Lowlands Saxon (Low German) of
Germany. People in the far northwest might say _gicheln_ or _giecheln_.
Mathieu:
> the word for "crying" of a dog (for instance when hit) is called
> "jónkere"
I guess we would say _günse(l)n_ for the softer sound (English "to
whimper", "to snigger", "to titter") and perhaps _jiffeln_ for the
louder sound ("to yelp"), besides _jaulen_ ("to howl"). For the softer,
persistent sound you could also say _quengeln_ (~ _kwengeln_), which can
also be used to refer to a person's insistent, begging whining.
_Quengeln_ is often used in connection with children's insistent begging
("working" their elders).
> However, in Limburg the word "kaum" for "barely" also exists (used
> side-by-side with "kaolik").
Surely this is a German loanword.
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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