LL-L "Syntax" 2002.12.17 (07) [E/German]

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From: Global Moose Translations globalmoose at t-online.de
Subject: LL-L "Syntax" 2002.12.16 (08) [E]

Hi Ron,

I got no "submit" confirmation for this message, which was sent at the same
time as my other one, so I'm resending it.

Viele Grüße,
Gabriele

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From: "Global Moose Translations" <globalmoose at t-online.de>
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Subject: Re: LL-L "Syntax" 2002.12.16 (08) [E]

> > Gabrielle, please give me an example of a "double positive" in a
sentence.
> > I am very interested.
>
> Ross,
> the example of the double positive was the exclamation at the end of the
> little anecdote: "Yeah, right!" Those are two positives, and together they
> express that the speaker does not believe what has been said, thus the
> opposite of what "yeah" or "right" would have meant by themselves. Of
> course, since this is conveyed merely by sarcasm, it's not really an
> equivalent of two negatives cancelling each other out. Still, I like the
> little story.
>
> Here's an example of a double negative used tongue-in-cheek by Wilhelm
> Busch, the great Lower Saxon poet and painter (who wrote in both Platt and
> High German):
>
> "Drum merk': bei Damen sollst du fein
> gar niemals nicht ironisch sein!"
>
> ("So keep in mind - don't you never be ironic with the ladies").
>
> Cheers,
> Gabriele

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From: Global Moose Translations globalmoose at t-online.de
Subject: LL-L "Syntax" 2002.12.17 (02) [E]


Speaking of double negatives:

The following should count as a point in case; it is part of a request I
just received from one of my translation customers:
"We now need to review all your details and make sure they are all up to
date and fill in any missing gaps we may have."

Missing gaps? Well, if they aren't there, why fill them?

I find it fascinating that the only way to "correctly" emphasize something
negative is to add a string of positive attributes to only one negative one
(as in "this is really, truly and most certainly a lie").

Gabriele Kahn

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From: Stan Levinson <stlev99 at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Syntax" 2002.12.17 (02) [E]

Daniel and others,
While a bit tangential, it's funny to think that in
fact, as far as I know, all the "children of Latin",
the Romance Languages, flaunt their double negatives
right and left!
Stan

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