LL-L "Orthography" 2002.02.20 (06) [E]

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From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
Subject: "Orthography"

> From: "Andy Eagle" <andy at scots-online.org>
> Subject: LL-L "Administrativa" 2002.02.19 (08) [Ap/E]
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> According to the CSD the adjective 'wise' is pronounced [w at is] hense the
> spelling 'wice'
> The Scots verb 'wise' on the other hand is pronounced [w at iz, waIz].
>
> Would the spelling 'wisins' not be better?

You're right, this seems to follow the same verb -> adjective
pattern as "lowze" -> "lowss", but in writing I tend to forget
the difference.

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Orthography
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> Thanks, Andy.
>
> But how is _wisins_ ~ _wycins_ pronounced?  *[w at isIns] or *[w at izIns]?  Are
> there any words in which intervocalic <s> is pronounced as [z]?
> If so, would
> not _wisins_, if pronounced *[w at isIns], be problematic?

There doesn't seem to be any "wysins" form of the word listed
in the SND - I added the "-ins" ending to create the plural
noun form to correspond to "guidelines" in English, but I would
imagine it naturally pronounced as ['w at izInz]. This goes against
the SVLR but there are other nouns like that - the town names
"Dysart" ['d at iz@r?] and "Fyvie" ['f at ivI] occur to me.

Perhaps we could take the analogy with "Dysart" and write it <wysins>?

Unless it all seems too much like creating an inkhorn term -
but it's just adding a participial ending to a verb to get a
noun, nothing unnatural.

Sandy
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Orthography

Andy, Sandy, Lowlanders,

It seems to me that there ought to be some type of device that distinguishes
/z/ and /s/ also in such alternations, that is if you aim at regularizing,
i.e., consistency, unless there are processes in Scots of which I am not
aware.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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