LL-L "Etymology" 2002.07.23 (01) [E]

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From: "David Elsworth" <david_elsworth at hotmail.com>
Subject:

Ron schreef:

Lowlanders,

I am intrigued by the apparent fact that Scots has two borrowed variants
for what basically is 'point'.

(1) point, pint, pwint, etc. (cf. English _point_) 'point' < French
    _point_ < Latin _punctus_ (masc.), or French _pointe_ < Latin
    _puncta_ (fem.)

(2) punct, punt 'dot', 'speck', 'point', 'period/full stop', 'moment',
    'item' < Latin _punctus_

I wonder if _pun(c)t_ was borrowed directly from Latin or via a
different language, and, if the latter, which language that might be.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

The second word is very similar to the German word, "Punkt." Also there
is
the Italian word, "punto," which, I believe to mean point, besides being
a
model of car by Fiat.

If I may diverge a little, this italian word also features in the name
of an
Italian aperitif going by the name of ,"punt e mes," or more correctly
,"punto e mezzo," meaning a point and half. This drink was nicknamed by
Italian stockbrokers if my knowledge serves me correctly.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

David,

It's also _Punkt_ (pl. _Pünkt_) in Lowlands Saxon (Low German) and
_punt_ in Dutch, and Scots at at one time or other contacts with both
languages, which is why I am wondering.

Cheers!
Reinhard/Ron

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