LL-L "Names" 2002.06.12 (04) [E]
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From: "David Elsworth" <david_elsworth at hotmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2002.06.10 (03) [E]
Dear Ron, Lowlanders
The Scots term for an English person is,"sassensach." I personally feel
that this must be connected to the Low Saxon word to describe a saxon.
Regards
David Elsworth.
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names
David,
Apparently you are right (above). Scottish Gaelig _Sasunn_ is 'England'
(originally "Saxon") and _Sasannach_ is 'English' (either adjective or
nominal 'English person', originally "Saxon"). Note also names like
Irish _Sacs-Bhéarla_ for 'English language' ("Saxon gobbledigook"),
_Saxain_ for 'England' and _Saxanach_ for 'English (person)'. Manx has
_Sostyn_ for 'England' and _Sostnagh_ for 'English (person)' Similarly
Breton has _Bro-Saoz_ 'England' and _saozneg_ 'English (language)'
(though lately French-based _Bro an Anglizien_ and _anglich_
respectively have been encroaching). Of course, this required these
languages to create new names for "real" 'Saxon' etc., e.g., Irish
_Saxa_
On the other hand, note that Finnish has _Saksa_ (originally "Saxony")
for 'Germany' (and _saksalainen_ for 'German', _saksan kieli_ for
'German language', etc.), similarly Estonian _Saksa_ (_sakslane_ and
_saksa keel_), obviously because medieval Saxony (today's Northern
Germany, from which Saxon-speaking Hanseatic traders reached Baltic
seaports) came to represent the earlier vague entity "Germany." Again,
later this required creating new names for "real" 'Saxony', etc., e.g.,
Finnish _Saksi_ 'Saxony', _saksilainen_ 'Saxon', _saksin kieli_ 'Saxon
language', similarly Estonian _Saksi_, _saks_, _saksi keel_
respectively.
Regards.
Reinhard/Ron
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