LL-L "Etymology" 2002.06.17 (09) [D/E/F]

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at HOLGER-WEIGELT.DE>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.06.17 (02) [D/E]

>From: Ruud Harmsen <rh at rudhar.com>
>Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.06.16 (05) [E/F]
>
>20:18 16-6-2002 -0700 Gabriele Kahn <globalmoose at t-online.de>
>(Global Moose Translations)
>>Am I right in assuming, then, that the currently predominate meaning of
>>"leeg" is related to the Dutch "lelijk", which meens "ugly"?
>
>Henno Brandsma <stellahenno at hetnet.nl>:
>
>>Yn reaksje hjirop: Der is wer gjin _etymologyske_ rilllaasje tusken
>>_leeg_ en Nl _lelijk_. Dit le^ste is nammentlik o^flaat fan _leed +
>>lijk_
>>(ferlykje : kwalijk < kwaad + lijk), we^r't _leed_ stiet foar "min".
>
>Dat kan ik bevestigen. Het WNT verbindt lelijk (in oudere spelling
>leelijk) met "leed", en "leeg" met "lid":
....
>Vergelijk ook de uitdrukking "ledigheid is des duivels oorkussen",
>waarin "ledigheid" = werkeloosheid, initiatiefloosheid, de toestand
>van niets te doen hebben. Het WNT hierover:

Hello all !

This meaning of "ledigheid" seems to be related to Eastern Friesland Low
Saxon "laierghkaid" (lazyness).
"la:j" = lazy; "laiwams" = lazybone; "lailensen" = to be lazy, to hang
around doing nothing.
For bad or ugly we have several expressions due to context or special
meaning: kwód, o:lk, ma:l, lelk etc.
Out of these the word "lelk" (insolent, cheeky, malicious, quarrelsome
etc.)
might be of special interest exploring it's possible relationship to
words
like "le:gh" or the above mentioned "lelijk".

Regards
Holger

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