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From: "Luc Hellinckx" <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Dracht

Beste Lieëglanners,

Another meaning of the verb "dragen" is expressed here in Brabant when
somebody is suffering from a wound that got infected. Nowadays, it is
still
said : "Dei wonne drààgt" or "Z'és ààn 't pörrn". Oftentimes this
involves
pus escaping the wound, and this substance was called "dracht" too.
These
days though, we rather use the word "mateer" for that matter (pun
intended).
We might say then : "Dei wonne trènt".
"Dracht" is also the "stuff that has collected in the corner of a
child's
eye after a night's sleep".

More frequently however, one could hear this :

"Da's een goei dracht vö de winter. 't Es 't open dat asn oëtkommen dàà
és,
da me ni mütte zégge : 't és lèk een ezelsdracht gewést" (D)

"That's a fine dress for winter. Let's hope that when spring is back, we
won't have to say that it's been like the pregnancy of a donkey..." (E)

[Something that takes ages (well actually 13 months I believe), before
it's
happening.]

Luc Hellinckx

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From: "Reuben Epp" <repp at silk.net>
Subject: LL-L "Help needeed" 2002.03.02 (04) [E]

> From: "Jan Strunk" <strunk at linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
> Subject: LL-L "Help needed" 2002.03.01 (05) [E]
>
> Dear Lowlanders,
>
> Although I'm really convinced that there is (also) a different
> German word for the pail-bearing device than "Joch".
> So far I've only found "Joch" everywhere:
> in dictionnaries, very old texts, new texts and the internet.
>
> Guedgaon,
>
> Jan Strunk
> strunk at linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de

Dear Lowlanders,

The Low Saxon/Low Prussian word for the wooden shoulder yoke
for carrying loaded pails or baskets, was generally known in
much of East Prussia and in the Vistula-Nogat Delta as 'Pede' f.
The words 'Trage' and 'Schanne' or 'Schande' were also known.

According to Frischbier, 'Pede' had its roots in Old-Prussian
'pîd', which meant 'to carry.'

In modern Mennonite Plautdietsch, such yoke is  known as a
'Peedj' f. It is pronounced similar to English 'paid,' except that
final 'd' is palatalized.

Cheers!

Reuben Epp

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