LL-L "Etymology" 2002.11.03 (03) [E/LS]

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From: Wim <wkv at home.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.11.02 (05) [S]

Hi,

About dry in scottish.

In my own northeastern dutch low saxon dialect. (Salland)  we say drög,
for dry (g pronounsed as ch in scottish loch)   Droog in dutch. Trokken
in german.  Is than any help?

Wim wkv at home.nl
[Wim Verdoold]

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From: Daniel Prohaska <daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.11.02 (09) [E]

Ron:
For example, alternatives -- I assume dialectal variants -- of _week_
'week'
is _ook_ (probably _ouk_ in Sandy's spelling).  I assume that this is a
Scandinavian loan.  Am I right?  Please compare Danish _uge_,
Dano-Norwegian
_uke_, probably derived from Old Norse _vika_ > Icelandic _vika_,
Swedish
_vecka_.

Questions:

o In which dialect group(s) is _ook_ prevalent?

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Moin Ron,

This is a difficult one and I can only give you a partial explanation.
It is quite possible that <ook> is not a Norse loan word. There is an
early dialectal split, caused by the /w/ preceding the stressed vowel,
in the North West Germanic languages with reflexes in Old High German
<wohha> vs. <wehha>; Old English <wicu> vs. <wucu>; although only Old
Norse <vika> is attested, it is likely that there would have been a form
*uka (ON loses v before u and sometimes o) as well, proved by your
Danish <oge> example. <Wucu> in Old English occured in West Saxon and in
Anglian, the OE dialect from which Scots is derived. It would be
interesting to see whether other OE words with initial /u/ folowing
initial /w/ lose the /w/. If not everything would point to Old Norse,
however, a <wucu>-form was already present in Old Anglian.

De Anter op dine annern vragen weet ik nich. Gift dat villicht en
etymoloogsches wöörbook vöör Scots? Dat kun een jümmers widerhölpen.

Oh, yes, and going back to Anglo-Saxon times I`m still waiting for input
about my question posted last week about conditions of the phonemic
split in Old Frisian of ê and â from /*ai/. Why does Frisian have <stên>
stone, but <râp> rope? A phonemic split in eastern Westphalian and
Eastphalian of ê2 (< *ai) points to a similar development. Is the
lexical distribution the same as in Old Frisian. The interesting thing
here is that OF must have undergone this development at an early stage
since all modern Frisian dialects show the same lexical distibution
despite th early break-up of the Frisian dialect continuum.

Yours, Dan

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