LL-L "Etymology" 2002.09.10 (07) [E]
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From: "Marco Evenhuis" <evenhuis at zeelandnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.09.10 (05) [E]
elsie zinsser wrote:
> Hi all and especially W. Jaap Engelsman <engelsma at euronet.nl>
>
> I think "padda boat" comes from paddle boat.
> Incidentally 'padda' in Afrikaans means 'frog'.
Just for your information, 'paddle' is
_peddel_ in Dutch. And in Dutch, a
_pad_ is not a frog, but a toad.
It's interesting to see that Afrikaans
has the suffix -a. In Zeelandic, a toad
is a _padde_ (suffix -e).
Two other Dutch words that came to
mind when I read Jaap's posting about
the 'padda boat', are _bark_ (sailing ship,
like the French word _bargue_; Zeelandic
_barke_) and Zeelandic (maybe also
Dutch) _barge_ (a flat-bottomed towed
ship, used for transport on canals).
Regards,
Marco
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology
Marco,
I'm not saying that Elsie is right or wrong (though I do admit that I
had the same "hunch" when I read Jaap's question), but I found (in van
Dale's Taalweb) that _paddel_ and _paddelen_ are alternative versions of
_peddel_ and _peddelen_ in Dutch, albeit probably occurring rarely in
the standard language. I did a web search and found "paddelen" used in
a number of Dutch language web pages.
However, padda-boats tend to be poled rather than paddled, although this
does not necessarily mean that this was always so.
<quote>
"Padda boat large flat bottomed boats or barges, square at both ends and
with a steer both at bow and stern, so that the vessels passage through
the water may be facilitated. Padda boats are generally poled like a
punt and are fitted at the stern with an outside oar serving as a
rudder".
</quote>
http://www.lacnet.org/island/i990228/leisure.htm#Forgotten%20Heritage
Groetjes,
Reinhard/Ron
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