LL-L "Etymology" 2003.04.15 (10) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.04.05 (01) [A/E]

> From: Allison Turner-hansen <athansen at arches.uga.edu>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.04.04 (02) [E]

> Also, in Middle English there was 'nis' (meaning 'isn't) from 'ne
> is'.  I know, I know, this is *not* an example of misanalysis, being
> merely a contraction.  I just like it and wanted to share it.  This no
> longer exists anywhere, does it?  How about in the other Lowlands
> languages?

> Allison Turner-Hansen
>
DearAllison,

In West-Flemish it still exist:
Da 'n is nie goed (E: That is not good).
'n Is gin doen an (lit.:Nis no doing on = I don't see any solution to
the problem)

Groetjes
Luc vanbrabant
Oekene

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.04.04 (04) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Etymology
> Now I have started to wonder if _Schuermann_ ~ _Schuurmann_ is
> etymologically connected with English "longshoreman," which *is* its
> correct
> English gloss, that perhaps the English term had been imported,
> abbreviated,
> into the LS language varieties of port cities (and many such words were
> imported, especially nautical ones).  I am pretty sure that, if
> loaning is
> involved, it went the said way rather than the other way around,
> because the
> etymology of English "longshoreman" is pretty clear: "longshore" <
> "along
> shore" + "man," i.e., a man who works along the shore.
>
> Of course, English "shore" does have a LS cognate: _Schaar(t)_ ~
> _Schor(t)_
> 'coast', 'coastal land', 'cliff', 'bluff' (cf. e.g., Swedish _skär_
> '(rocky)
> islet', 'skerry', 'rock', related to words for 'to slice', 'to cut'?).
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Been away for a week, but here i am again, discussing about languages.
Love it!

Dear Ron,

In Dutch we have the word "schor(re)",meaning a coastal area that is
flooded with every tide.
In Flemish there is a word like "scharretonge", It is a fish, found
near the coast.

Groetjes
Luc vanbrabant
Oekene.

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