LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.05 (04) [E]

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.05 (01) [E]

> From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
> Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.04 (06) [E]
> The Brussels uvular R is rolling ....

A sound sample:
http://www.euro-support.be/temp/thiereleive.wma
2.59 min    2.8 Mb

A song "'t Hiereleive" (The upperclass life) by Jef Elbers in Brussels
dialect.

Regards,

Roger

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: Bitonality

Limburgish bitonality was discussed in this list some time ago.

I recorded 3 samples in my West-Limburgish variant of Vliermaal (Lonerlands)
(sleeptoon / stoottoon)

http://www.euro-support.be/temp/bal.wav
bal (football) - bal (dancing party)

http://www.euro-support.be/temp/erm.wav
erm (arm singular) - erm (arms plural)

http://www.euro-support.be/temp/pjaad.wav
pjaat (horse - singular) - pjaat (horses - plural)

Regards,
Roger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Thanks for all your sound illustrations on and off the List, Roger!

Limburgish tonality keeps intreaguing me because (1) I am generally
interested in the tonality and (2) because there appears to be some
correspondence between Limburgish tones and Lowlands Saxon (Low German)
vowel length.

Lowlands Saxon -- at least many of its dialects among first language
speakers -- adds extra-length to a long vowel where in the next syllable
final _-e_  has been dropped and the intervening consonant is voiced.  Where
this now final consonant is pronounced (which applies to all but /-d/), it
remains voiced, i.e. does not undergo the usual rule of final devoicing
(common to LS, German, Dutch, also Russian, Polish, etc.).  In this
position, some dialects delete /-d/ while others retain it (and keep it
voiced).  (It is usually non-native speakers that will apply final devoicing
in such cases, and the usually absent or insufficient orthographic
representation of it reinforces this mispronunciation.)

It so happens that this applies to the Lowlands Saxon equivalent of Roger's
example above:

/peird/ -> (peyrd) <Peerd> ~ <Peert> [p_heI3`t] 'horse'
(/peird+e/) > /peird=0/ -> (peyrd') <Peerd'> ~ <Peerd> ~ <Peer> [pe:I3`(d)]

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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