LL-L "Idiomatica" 2003.08.06 (02) [E]

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From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
Subject: "Idiomatica"

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Idiomatica
>
> And there we have it: English "Bye-bye" may be another case, or is it
> derived from something like "(I'll see you again) by and by (= before
> long)"?  I feel that "Bye" alone may sound "grumpy."
>
> And then we have non-American English "Ta-ta!" as an "Bye-bye!"
> alternative.

The most typical greeting in Scots is "Ay!" /a:I/, which
is also often repeated: "Ay-ay!".

Of course, "Na na!" is a very common expression in Scots for
emphatic denial as well.

Sandy
http://scotstext.org/

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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Idiomatica

Beste liëglanners,

I've heard numerous West-Flemish speakers emphasize an adjective, not
through the use
of a separate word (like "sti(j)f", "erg", "heel", "braa(f)", "wreed",
"nij(di)g" or
even "mega" *s*...) but rather would they repeat the adjective:

"Het is niet koud koud" (D) thus meaning "It's not very cold"
or
"Dienen auto is niet diere diere" (D) for "That car is not very expensive"

I've only witnessed this usage in connection with a negation (like "niet").
Far in the
back of my mind I seem to remember having heard this in other languages as
well, but I
can't recall which ones they were.
Mandarine dialects?!?

Greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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