LL-L "Etymology" 2003.02.09 (02) [E]

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From: luc.hellinckx at pandora.be <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Etymology

Beste liëglanners,

Brabantish people also sometimes make grimaces and we call this "gramoejtse
maken".
I seem to remember the word was already known by Kiliaan (16th century), and
the 12th century French version "grimuche" makes me think this loan is a
very old one...from Frankish to French and back again ?
Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.02.07 (07) [E/LS]

Fiete wrote:

> datt hett mit 'n (LS) "Appel", (UG) "Apfel", (E) "apple" viellich' amend
nix
> tau dauhn, dat kommt von 'nt "Afri-" kaansche aff (viellich' oobers de
> "Appel" ook!) ! Und "-sinus" or "ko-sinus" (UG)"krumm, gekrümmt, kurvig"
> finn't wi ook in (UG)"Apfelsine".

I take it this was meant as a joke?! In any case, it's quite a creative
interpretation, although I fail to see how Latin mathematical terms that
most people would never have heard of a hundred years ago would have been
involved in shaping the common name of a fruit. Not to mention the fact that
the abovementioned curves are unlimited while an apricot forms a nice, round
orb.

This is what Chambers has to say on the matter:

Port. albricoque - Arabic al-birquq - from al, the, and late Greek
praikokion, or Latin praecoquum or praecox, early ripe.
There is also a possible connection with the Latin apricus, sunny.

So I suppose one could say that apricots - "al praecox" - are completely
unsuitable for use as an aphrodisiac... :-)

As to the "Apfelsine" - that means "apple from China", just like the Dutch
"Sinaasappel" and the Latin name "Citrus sinensis". And China is indeed the
home of the species. Then there are mandarins - "Mandarinen" - from
Southeast Asia, which are also named according to their Chinese roots.

Scientifically,
Gabriele Kahn

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