LL-L "What does it mean?" 2003.02.24 (10) [A/D/E]

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From: Marco Evenhuis <evenhuis at zeelandnet.nl>
Subject:   LL-L "What does it mean?" 2003.02.24 (05) [A/E]

Elsie Zinsser schreef:

"Ron skryf na aanleiding van Roger Thijs se vraag oor wat "Tov" in
"Mazel-Tov" beteken:
I guess it is possible that Dutch _tof_ was at least indirectly derived from
it.
In Afrikaans gebruik ons nog steeds die woord "optof". Dit beteken om goed
aan te trek vir 'n spesiale geleentheid."

Ik denk dat het woord _optof_ dat Elsie noemt eerder van het Nederlandse
_opdoffen_ komt (zelfde betekenis). _Opdoffen_ heeft in elk geval niets met
_tof_ te maken, maar alles met _dof_ (grauw).

Groeten,

Marco Evenhuis

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From: Ruud Harmsen <rh at rudhar.com>
Subject:  LL-L "What does it mean?" 2003.02.24 (05) [A/E]

10:40 24-2-2003 -0800, Lowlands-L:
>In Afrikaans gebruik ons nog steeds die woord "optof". Dit beteken
om goed
>aan te trek vir 'n spesiale geleentheid.

"(Zich) opdoffen" in het Nederlands. De t in het Afrikaans ontstaat
waarschijnlijk door assimilatie, en dan is verband met "tov"
onwaarschijnlijk.

Het WNT vermeldt vreemd genoeg niet precies deze betekenis van
"opdoffen".
--
http://rudhar.com

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From: R. F. Hahn <admin at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: What does it mean?

Ruud (above):

> 10:40 24-2-2003 -0800, Lowlands-L:
> >In Afrikaans gebruik ons nog steeds die woord "optof". Dit beteken
> om goed
> >aan te trek vir 'n spesiale geleentheid.

It was Elsie Zinsser you are quoting there.

Cheers!
Reinhard/Ron

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