LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.05 (04) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.03 (03) [E]

> From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.02 (04) [E]
>
> REFERRING TO:
>
>> From: Klaus-Werner Kahl <kwkahl at bnet-ibb.de>
>> Subject: Expressions
>>
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> I try to find out the meaning of the names of the
>> week-days. As you see
>> there are very similar words for some week-days but
>> some are very different.
>>
>> English - Low German - High German = expression
>> Monday - Maondag - Montag = day of the moon
>> Tuesday - Dingsdag - Dienstag = ?
>> Wednesdy - Gunsdag - Mittwoch = ?
>> Thursday - Dunnerdag - Donnerstag = day of the god
>> Donar
>> Friday - Fridag - Freitag = day to goddes Freia or
>> Freyia
>> Saturday - Saoterdag - Samstag = ?
>> Sunday - Sundag - Sonntag = day of the sun
>
>> ----------
>>
>> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Etymology
>>
>> Happy New Year, Klaus-Werner, Lowlanders!
>>
>> First of all, here are some more equivalents:
>>
>> English: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
>> Friday, Saturday, Sunday
>> Afrikaans: Maandag, Dinsdag, Woensdag, Donderdag,
>> Vrydag, Saterdag, Sondag
>> Dutch: Maandag, Dinsdag, Woensdag, Donderdag,
>> Vrijdag, Zaterdag, Zondag
>> Westph. LS: Maondag, Dingsdag, Gunsdag, Dunnerdag,
>> Fridag, Saoterdag, Sundag
>> Northern LS: Maandag, Dingsdag, Middeweken,
>> Dunner(s)dag, Fredag/Fridag,
>>    SÃ¼nnavend, SÃ¼nndag
>> German: Montag, Dienstag, Mittwoch, Donnerstag,
>> Freitag, Samstag/Sonnabend,
>>    Sonntag
>> Yiddish: Montik, Dinstik, Mitvokh, Donershtik,
>> Fraytik, Shabes, Zuntik
>>
>> Middeweken, Mittwoch, Mitvokh: "middle week"
>> Shabes (< Hebrew _shabath_): "Sabbath"
>>
>> Monday < MÃ´nandÃ¦g "Moon Day"
>> Tuesday < TÃ®wesdÃ¦g "Tiu's Day"
>> Wednesday < WÃ´dnesdÃ¦g "Wotan's/Odin's Day"
>> Thursday < ÄunresdÃ¦g "Thor's/Thunder's Day"
>> Friday < FrÃ®gedÃ¦g "Freya Day"
>> Saturday < SÃ¦ternesdÃ¦g "Saturn's Day"
>> Sunday < SÃ»nnandÃ¦g "Sun Day
>>
>> Regards,
>> Reinhard/Ron
> From: ntl <shoogly at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.02 (04) [E]
>
> I am lead to believe ( and having lived in Iceland and having some
> acquaintance with Icelandic - though the names of the days there were
> changed to the more banal words due to the Lutheran church ), that
> several
> of the names have origins in old in the old Norse pagan religion and
> refers
> to deities in it.
> Looking at my Oxford English dictionary of guidance - it says;
>
> Tuesday: Old English ( O.E ) - "Tiw's day" ( Tiw - a God )
> Wednesday: O.E Woednesdaeg - "Woden's / Oden's day"
> Thursday: Oxford English Dict says: Thunressdag "day of Thunder" - but
> I was
> always lead to believe this meant "Thor's day" - but as Thor was god of
> thunder -then they aren't exclusive explanations
> Friday: O.E Frigedaeg "Freya's day" ( Freya Norse Goddess of love -and
> only
> female in Norse pantheon - has personal attachment to me as I lived in
> Freyagata in Reykjavik ;-)  )

In Belgium we have a place called "Freyr" (male form of Freya?)
>
> These are the ones of Norse origin.
>
> Chris Ferguson
>
> ----------
>
> From: Mathieu. van Woerkom <Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> Klaus-Werner Kahl asked:
>
>> I try to find out the meaning of the names of the week-days. As you
>> see
>> there are very similar words for some week-days but some are very
>> different.
>
> English:
> Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
>
> For Limburgish it is:
> Maondig, Dinsdig, Goonsdig, Dónderdig, Vriedig, Zaoterdig, Zóndig
>
> regards,
> Mathieu
> -------------------------
> http://streektaal.cjb.net
>
> ----------
>
> From: R. F. Hahn <admin at lowlands-l.net>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> I wrote:
>> Tuesday < Tîwesdæg "Tiu's Day"
>
> Chris wrote:
>> Tuesday: Old English ( O.E ) - "Tiw's day" ( Tiw - a God )
>
> Am I correct in assuming that the name of this particular god is
> related to
> Latin _Deus_ "God", _dius_ ~ _diuus_ ~ _divus_ 'god' > _divinus_
> 'godly' (>
> French _divine_ > English "divine," etc.), Latin _dies_ 'day',
> 'bright'.
>
> Well, I found one source that seems to corroborate this:
>
> <quote>
> One of the interesting phases of Cretan religion was the worship of the
> local Zeus. The deity must not be confused, however, with the so-called
> Aryan or Indo-European Zeus of the philologists of a past generation.
> The
> name Zeus is less ancient than the deities to whom it was applied. It
> is
> derived from the root div, meaning "bright" or "shining". In Sanskrit
> it is
> Dyaus, in Latin Diespiter, Divus, Diovis, and Jove, in Anglo-Saxon
> Tiw, and
> in Norse Tyr; an old Germanic name of Odin was Divus or Tivi, and his
> descendants were the Tivar. The Greeks had not a few varieties of Zeus.
> These included: "Zeus, god of vintage", "Zeus, god of sailors," "Bald
> Zeus",
> "Dark Zeus" (god of death and the underworld), "Zeus-Trophonios"
> (earth-god), "Zeus of thunder and rain", "Zeus, lord of flies", "Zeus,
> god
> of boundaries", "Zeus Soter", as well as the "Carian Zeus" and the
> "Cretan
> Zeus". The chief gods of alien peoples were also called Zeus or
> Jupiter.
> Merodach of Babylon was "Jupiter Belus" and Amon of Thebes "Jupiter
> Amon",
> and so on.
> </quote>
> http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/moc/moc12.htm
>
> But does this mean that Tuesday and Wednesday are named after the same
> god?
>
> Mathieu gave the Limburgish names:
>> Maondig, Dinsdig, Goonsdig, Dónderdig, Vriedig, Zaoterdig, Zóndig
>
> Compare this with Yiddish (given by me):
>> Montik, Dinstik, Mitvokh, Donershtik, Fraytik, Shabes, Zuntik
>
> Note vowel "reduction" of the word for 'day'.  Is this a Rhenish areal
> feature?  (Yiddish is said to have originated in medieval Rhenish
> German.)
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron
> Hello,
In V we have:
moandag(g pronounced as h), dissendag,woe(n)sdag, dunderdag, vrijdag
(ij=ie), zoaterdag, zundag.

Groetjes
Luc Vanbrabant
Oekene

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