LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.06.12 (02) [E]

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From: "ezinsser" <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.06.10 (01) [E]

Hi all,

Ron, you ask:
[ Why?  Was _baju_ (Malay and Javanese, now archaic Dutch-based spelling
> _badju_) 'blouse', 'jacket', used in the Netherlands *before* it was
> used in Southern Africa?]

Yes, apparently the word was known (i.e. 'Indian style overcoat') in
Dutch
by
the 16th Century (E.M. Raidt - Afrikaans en sy Europese verlede),
whereas
Afrikaans developed from 17th Century Dutch, after the establishment of
a
half-way station between the Cape of Good Hope and the East Indian
Islands.
(1652)

[I had thought that borrowings of this sort mostly took place in the
"Indies" ...
Am I wrong there?]

It would not surprise me. Another case in point is Arabic borrowings
that
came via
European languages to Afrikaans.

[The Pecoh equivalent of Afrikaans _baie_ is _baai-baai_']

Repetitions are well-known in Afrikaans: gou-gou; amper-amper;
speel-speel; nou-nou; huisie-huisie; toe-toe, etc.

[There are other words that may be familiar to speakers of Afrikaans;
e.g.,
_baboe_ (babu) 'nannie', _karbouw_ 'water buffalo', _ketjap_ (kecap)
'soy cauce', _nasi_ 'cooked rice', _pisang_ 'banana'.  Might an early
form of Petjoh have been responsible for some of these words in
Afrikaans?  In other words, did some of them arrive already "made."]

Only 'piesang' is known from your list, but others are:
amper- hampir
amok-amuk
baklei-berkalahi
baar-baharu
kabaai (archaic) -cabaya (also known in Port. before the 1600's.
['hempagtige bokleed']
katel-katil
kapok-kapuk
nooi/nôi/nonnie - via Port. >dona njonjah/nonah
blatjang- blachan
bobotie- bobotah
sosatie- sate
doepa-doepa
katjiepiering- katjapiring
sambok-sambuk
soebat-sabat (vriend)
rottang-rota

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

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