LL-L "Etymology" 2003.03.19 (01) [E/F/Cornish]

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From: Dan Prohaska (daniel at ryan-prohaska.com)
Subj.: Etymology

The Cornish for "Jackdaw" is:

<chok> (long open /O/)  or <choca> (short /O/; <a> is schwa here)

Dan

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From: Andrys Onsman <Andrys.Onsman at CeLTS.monash.edu.au>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.03.18 (01) [D/E/F/LS/German]

Oan: Henno en Ron
Subject: Aksters

Tige tank, Henno. "Ik bin bliid datsto der bist!"
In kauw is gewoan in ka, net? Sa'n lytse krie?

Andrys

> CORVUS MONEDULA

> Dutch: kauw
> English: jackdaw

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Andrys oan Henno:

> "Ik bin bliid datsto der bist!"

Ik ek! :)

Dan:

> The Cornish for "Jackdaw" is:
> <chok> (long open /O/) or <choca> (short /O/; <a> is schwa here)

Murrasta why, Dan wheg!

Celtic:

Cornish: chok
Welsh: cawci, cogfran, corfran, jac-y-do (< English?)
Breton: palorez, bran tour
Manx: caaig doo-chassagh
Gaelic: cadhag
Irish: cabhóg
Middle Irish: caog
Proto-Celtic: *ca-óg (ca = onomatopoetic)

Yehes ha sowena!
Reinhard/Ron

P.S.: Talking about Celtic, ... I just found out that I have a
Breton-speaking uncle I had never known about! Wow!

P.P.S.: The server seems to have been down for quite a while today. Sorry
about that.

P.P.P.S.: The server has resumed its antics.  I have not been able to send
this for hours now ...

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From: Leslie Decker <leslie at volny.cz>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.03.18 (01) [D/E/F/LS/German]

>Ron wrote:
>
>Klaus-Werner asks above if anyone can explain the etymology of Münsterland
>Westfalian _Hile_ or _Hill_ for 'feed loft' or 'fodder loft', and he asked
>what the equivalents of _Hillekane_ 'jackdaw' (_Corvus monedula_) are in
>other language varieties. I told him that I do not know of _Hile_ or _Hill_
>(at least not at this moment) and that the Northern Lowlands Saxon names
for
>the bird are _Dohl_ and _Krickelkreih_ ("croaking crow"?).
>
>CORVUS MONEDULA
>Azeri: dolaşa, zağca
>Basque: belia, belatzarra
>Catalan: gralla
>Chinese: 寒鴉 (寒鸦) ("cold crow")
>Czech: kavka obecná
>Danish: allike
>Dutch: kauw
>English: jackdaw
>Estonian: hakk
>Farsi:  زاغچه , زاغى
>Finnish: naakka
>French: choucas, choucas des tours ("tower" jackdaw")
>Galician: gralla cereixeira
>German: Dohle
>Greek: κάργια, κάργα
>Hungarian: csóka
>Icelandic: dvergkráka ("dwarf crow")
>Italian: taccola
>Japanese: ニシコクマルガラス
>Korean: 갈가마귀
>Latvian:  kovārnis
>Lithuanian: kuosa
>Lowlands Saxon (Low German): Dohl, Krickelkreih, Hillekane
>Norwegian: allike
>Polish: kawka
>Portuguese: gralha-de-nuca-cinzenta
>Romanian: stancuta
>Russian: галка
>Scots: kae (NE kyaw)
>Slovenian: kavka
>Spanish: grajilla
>Swedish: kaja
>Turkish: kargası ("crow's", "of the crow", "crow-like")
>Ukrainian: галка
>
>Regards,
>Reinhard/Ron

Well, this isn't very much to add but the Czech obecná means 'normal'
and the English version where I come from (Texas) is 'grackle.' I seem
to remember from my etymology class at university that this was related
to jackdaw and some other words but at the moment I can't remember what
they are...
Leslie Decker

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