LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.11.01 (01) [E/LS]

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From: Mathieu. van Woerkom <Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl>
Subject: Language varieties

Arthur Jones wrote:

> Whether souls, Saints, or Samhain, the region is worth driving and/or
> hiking around to experience the variety of dialects of Plattduutsch.
> The accent and even some vocabulary differ excitingly from one village
> to another (perfect for a pub crawl).

Indeed, the dialects of neighbouring villages are different from each other,
which makes it a very interesting area (even though this occurs in almost
every
region I'm aware of ;-) -- at least in the Netherlands).

I must add, though, that the language varieties in Limburg and neighbouring
parts of Germany are *not* Plattduutsch; I feel that Limburgish is a
transition
area between the Low-Franconian varieties (in the Netherlands and Belgium)
and
the Central-Franconian varieties in Germany (region of Köln [Kölle] and a
bit
further to the south-east)

> Personally, I believe it is also the convergence of the usages of
> "graag" as
> opposed to "gaarn". (Ik zul graag... Ik zul gaarn). Add to that the
> checkered past as the home of "plunderaars en veedieven", and I had
> difficulty distinguishing between Nederduits and Niersaessisch.

As far as I know, Dutch 'graag' is 'gaer'  or 'gaere' in (the southern
dialects
of) Limburgish; I'm not sure about the Limburgish dialects in Belgium and
Germany...

regards!
Mathieu
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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.10.31 (01) [E]

A chairde,

Theo wrote:
"Then -I guess- he must have been 'an academic'."

No, he was an accountant. Dutch people generally seem
to be quite well informed about languages in their own
region, even if they don't always agree with
progressive policies vis-a-vis those languages.

Criostóir.

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From: sam claire <samclaire at mybluelight.com>
Subject: LL-L

Hello gang: Don't know what's been said here about Ebonics but in the
research I've been into it was not held in high regard but with lots of
disdain.  And so, for one among many reasons, because it's the first and
only language among the majority of its speakers -- a sort of Pidgin, i. e.,
a degenerated form.  Sam

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From: Sérvine L'auvi <servine_lauvi at hotmail.com>
Subject: Nedersakisch Standerdtaol

Ik bin nieuw op Lowlands-L, en 'k e'intereseert in Nedersaksisch, ik vreug
mie af of tur 'n standerd schrieftaol is veur Nedersaksisch of dat iemand
dat an et untwikkelen is? En weet iemand iets over et Veluws?? En waorum
wurdt et Nedersaksisch nooit op internet bevordert deur dee meensen dee et
spreken?!

Groetjes, Stefan!

[Stefan Lubbersen]

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