LL-L "Names" 2003.11.12 (01) [E]

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at holger-weigelt.de>
Subject: "Names"

> From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.11.09 (07) [E]
>
> > Other differences between writing and pronounciation
> > are mostly due to the
> > German based orthography (examples: Jan / Jân;
> > Antje / Āntje [a:Ic@]; Gretje
> > / Gräitje; Gertje / Gitje, Berendina / Bendīna
> > etc.).
> > Kind regards
> > Holger
> >
> > ----------
> > By the way, those spoken versions seem to be along
> > the lines of English
> > "Peter" = "Pete," "James" = "Jim," "Margaret" =
> > "Mag," "Kimberly" = "Kim,"
> > etc., and Lowlands Saxon (Low German) "Johannes" >
> > "Jehannes" = "Jan" and
> > "Kathrin" = "Trien" (~ "Trine").
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Reinhard/Ron
Hello Ron !
Sorry, but I think You're wrong in this. Those "spoken" versions I mentioned
aren't abbreviations of full names like those You listed. These versions
have to do with the general tendency in Eastern Friesland Low Saxon to drop
unstressed syllables by enclosing them into the stressed ones as a length
change in it's vowel or diphthong. We recently discussed that in the list
(extra length, "Schleifton" etc.). The same happens to whole words f. ex.
pronouns.
As an example: _het häi ?_ [hEt hæI] becomes a spoken _häed ?_[´hE:`Ed].
Regards
Holger

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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Names

Fair enough, Holger.  I suggest you add those spoken forms in parenthesis
after the official forms rather than making a special column for them.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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