LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (12) [E]

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From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
Subject: LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (09) [E]

> Try these words for size:
> /ar/:

> _allarm_ (<Alarm>) [?a'la:m] (Danish _alarm_) 'alarm'

(h)alarm

> _arbayd_ (<Arbeit>) ['?a:ba.It] (Danish _arbejde_) 'work'

arbed/arbit

> _barbeyr_ (<Barbeer>) [ba'bE.I3`] (Danish _barber_) 'barber'

bårbér

> _bar_ (<Bar>) [ba:] (Danish _bar_) '(drinking) bar'

bar [?] but bar (as nakes) is bår

> _park_ (<Park>) [p_ha:k] (Danish _park_) 'park'

park (with glottal stop - that is normal after k, p and t)

> _larm_ (<Larm>) [la:m] (Danish _larm_) 'noise', 'din'

la:rm

> /aar/:
> _kaart_ (<Kaart>) [k_hQ:3`t] (Danish _kort_) 'card'

kårt [?]

> _paar_ (<Paar>) [p_hQ:3`] (Danish _par_) 'pair', 'couple'

pår

> _gaarner_ (<Gaarner>) ['gQ:3`n3`] (Danish _gartner_) 'gardener'

gårner

> _haar_ (<Haar>) [hQ:3`] (Danish _hår_) 'hair'

hor/hår?

Hilsen, Kenneth
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Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>

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From: Friedrich-Wilhelm Neumann <Fieteding at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (06) [E]

Hi, Kenneth and Ron,

Kenneth wrote:

> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
> Subject: Assistance
> ....had is also haar/hoar [?] in Low Saxon - can this be Low Saxon
> influence?

And Ron answered:

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language contacts
>
> I'm not sure.  The sequence /ar/ (with a short vowel) within the same
> syllable tends to be pronounced [a:], much like <ar> in Australian and
> Bostonian English.  Thus the LS words _kar_ (<Karr>) 'car(t)', _part_
> (<Part>) 'part' and _mark_ (<Mark>) 'mark' sound pretty much (to my ears
> exactly) like their equivalents in those English dialects.

In our regional LS-dialect it of course works like Ron wrote- except:

the LS word _kar_ (<Karr>, (UG): "Karre" we use to pronounce as "Kooar",
with much "o" and less "a", (E): "r".

Regards

Fiete.

 (Friedrich W. Neumann)
Not Lucifer I fear
but those almighty Gods

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