LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (12) [E]
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From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
Subject: LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (09) [E]
> Try these words for size:
> /ar/:
> _allarm_ (<Alarm>) [?a'la:m] (Danish _alarm_) 'alarm'
(h)alarm
> _arbayd_ (<Arbeit>) ['?a:ba.It] (Danish _arbejde_) 'work'
arbed/arbit
> _barbeyr_ (<Barbeer>) [ba'bE.I3`] (Danish _barber_) 'barber'
bårbér
> _bar_ (<Bar>) [ba:] (Danish _bar_) '(drinking) bar'
bar [?] but bar (as nakes) is bår
> _park_ (<Park>) [p_ha:k] (Danish _park_) 'park'
park (with glottal stop - that is normal after k, p and t)
> _larm_ (<Larm>) [la:m] (Danish _larm_) 'noise', 'din'
la:rm
> /aar/:
> _kaart_ (<Kaart>) [k_hQ:3`t] (Danish _kort_) 'card'
kårt [?]
> _paar_ (<Paar>) [p_hQ:3`] (Danish _par_) 'pair', 'couple'
pår
> _gaarner_ (<Gaarner>) ['gQ:3`n3`] (Danish _gartner_) 'gardener'
gårner
> _haar_ (<Haar>) [hQ:3`] (Danish _hår_) 'hair'
hor/hår?
Hilsen, Kenneth
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Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
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From: Friedrich-Wilhelm Neumann <Fieteding at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.09 (06) [E]
Hi, Kenneth and Ron,
Kenneth wrote:
> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
> Subject: Assistance
> ....had is also haar/hoar [?] in Low Saxon - can this be Low Saxon
> influence?
And Ron answered:
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language contacts
>
> I'm not sure. The sequence /ar/ (with a short vowel) within the same
> syllable tends to be pronounced [a:], much like <ar> in Australian and
> Bostonian English. Thus the LS words _kar_ (<Karr>) 'car(t)', _part_
> (<Part>) 'part' and _mark_ (<Mark>) 'mark' sound pretty much (to my ears
> exactly) like their equivalents in those English dialects.
In our regional LS-dialect it of course works like Ron wrote- except:
the LS word _kar_ (<Karr>, (UG): "Karre" we use to pronounce as "Kooar",
with much "o" and less "a", (E): "r".
Regards
Fiete.
(Friedrich W. Neumann)
Not Lucifer I fear
but those almighty Gods
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