LL-L "Names" 2003.09.10 (04) [E]

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From: jannie.lawn <jannie.lawn at ntlworld.com>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.09 (16) [E]


Hai Lowlanders,

Sandy Fleming wrote:
Of course there are "wicks" in Scotland, such as "Wick" and "Prestwick" and
"wich's" in England such as "Ipswich", "Bromwich" and "Dulwich".

Well, there are also 'wick's in England.  There is a Postwick near Norwich,
Hardwick near Cambridge, Jaywick in Essex, Wickhambrook, Wicken Fen and many
other places starting with 'Wick' in East Anglia alone, etc.  And it
features in local surnames, such as Fenwick, pronounced: 'Fennick' (a farmer
in the Cambridgeshire Fenland area).

I know that many Norwegian placenames also end in 'vik'.  I wonder whether
some UK place names have been derived from that.  I know that there was a
lot of Norwegian influence in the north of England, in place names, etc.  In
that area we find, for example, Keswick.  When I looked it up in my
dictionary, the Norwegian 'vik' is translated into 'creek' (E).  And looking
at the Norway map shows that they often are in the fjord area.  That then is
the same as 'wijk' meaning 'bay' or 'inlet', stated by Evert.

Groetjes, Jannie Lawn-Zijlstra

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From: Allison Turner-Hansen <hallison at gte.net>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.08 (01) [E]

Dear Lowlanders,

    Ron suggested we compile a list of Lowlands given names.  I can supply
one, that  of a Dutch ancestress of mine: her name was Aleta van Riper.  My
little sister bears this name.

Best,
Allison Turner-Hansen

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From: Thomas byro <thbyro at earthlink.net>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.08 (01) [E]

Theo:

Not that it has a great deal of meaning but evidently some of the Dingman
clan settled in the New World.  In northern New Jersey, there is a village
named Dingman's Ferry.  It is right on the Delaware river, opposite
Pennsylvania.

Tom Byro

> From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.08 (01) [E]
>
> > From: Peter Snepvangers
> > <snepvangers at optushome.com.au>
> > Subject: Names
> >
> > Dag Lowlanders,
> > it is nice to be back home.
> > In my family tree we have some names that repeat
> > through history. [...]
>  There is also a name from about 1600 in
> > Noord Brabant called
> > Dingmannus and also a Dingeman. I have absolutely no
> > knowledge of its origin
> > or meaning. [...]
>
> Hi,
>
> Concerning (the Brabant name) Dingeman(s):
> In former centuries it happened that a family-name was
> given as the 1st or 2nd first name; this occurred
> especially in well-to-do-families. The reason was
> mostly to impress esp. nearby living competing
> families.
> Other example: Linthorst Homan. For some centuries
> Linthorst was given as the 2nd first name, so in 'Dirk
> Linthorst Homan' Homan was the family name and Dirk
> and Linthorst the 2 first names. But everybody was
> impressed by the 'double' family name.
>
> vr. gr.
> Theo Homan

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From: Peter Snepvangers <snepvangers at optushome.com.au>
Subject: Names

From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.09 (02) [E]
Hi Peter
The "ding" was something like a parliament in the old days. So "Dingeman(s)"
was a member of that parliament.
Groetjes
luc vanbrabant
Thank you Luc and ALL you Lowlanders for your information. I am busy writing
to all the Aussie Sneps about Dingeman and Joris. My apologies Evert for not
including Danes under the Germanic banner, I am removing my foot from my
mouth and kicking myself for being a goose. There certainly is some great
knowledge out there. . If we only knew collectively what we all know
individually. That is why this discussion group is so good.
Tot Straks,
Peter Snepvangers
snepvangers at optushome.com.au

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