LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.17 (04) [E/LS]

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From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.16 (07) [E/LS]

> From: Gary Taylor <gary_taylor_98 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> Hi all
>
> quick question to get you thinking. I was looking
> through an etymological dictionary today – yes I
> really am that interesting – and was going through
> the words beginning with ‘p’ in English. Very
> few
> of these words actually date back to a common
> Germanic
> word, of the few that do most are early borrowings
> from Latin. This is not surprising as Germanic
> ‘p’
> developed from Indo-European ‘b’, of which many
> are of the opinion that it didn’t actually exist
> –
> thus forming a gap in the phoneme system.[clip,
clip...]

Hello Gary,
Well, this is a hot/cold topic, but a right
observation.

But what if the old grammar-schools (the
'neo-grammarians') were not right?

For Indo-European they claimed a /bh - gh - dh/.
But every language having these three phonemes also m
u s t  have a /b - d - g/.

You see? You have to rewrite the whole system, and
then will turn out that the Old-Germanics were normal
people with a normal /p/.

Good luck,
Theo Homan

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From: Anja Meyfarth <anja-meyfarth at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.16 (07) [E/LS]

Moin!

Fiete wrote:

> "taarn", schall meenen (UG): "einladen", (E): "to invite [somebody]".

And Ron answered:

> Vör "taren" ("taarn") wöyrd' ik "beden" or "nöydigen" seggen.

I just took the new Sass and found:

"tarren" meaning "zerren" (G), "tug" (E), the word reminds me of (E) "tear".
Would fit to "nödigen", wouldn't it? *s*

Greetings from Kiel,

Anja

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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Etymology

Och, "tarren" schul dat syn!  Vun wegen Fiete syn schryvwys' kreeg' ik dat
nich mit, meyn dat weyr "taren" mit 'n lang /a/, un so 'n wourd kin ik nich.

Ja, "tarren" dayt up Düytsch _zerren_ bedüyden, up Ingelsch _tear_, _haul_,
_lug_, _tug_, _drag_, up Nedderlandsch _trekken_, _rukken_, _sleuren_,
_scheuren_, _rijten_, _tieren_ ...

Gröytens,
Reinhard/Ron

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