LL-L "Names" 2003.09.18 (10) [E]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

I wrote today:

> Luc (above):
>
> > Could that be related to the county of "Loon". This region was situated
> > in what is now a part of Belgium, The Netherlands and Germany.
> > A great part of it is now called "Limburg".
>
> Ah!  And there is the city of Lohne in the Oldenburg region of Germany!
And
> a river by the same name!  I wonder if there is a connection.  What is
their
> origin?
>
> I am tempted to connect these with the _lo(h)_ 'grove', 'woods' (i.e.,
with
> _-(e)n(+e)_) we mentioned before, and a couple of websites I consulted
seem
> to confirm this.  So these areas are or used to be woodsy.

Just after I sent this off this afternoon, I spoke with a student from
Portugal who was born in Germany, in Iserlohn (North Rhine-Westphalia).  May
I take it that this name is related to this group too?  "Iron Woods"?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.18 (09) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Names
> Luc (above):
> > Could that be related to the county of "Loon". This region was situated
> > in what is now a part of Belgium, The Netherlands and Germany.
> > A great part of it is now called "Limburg".
> I am tempted to connect these with the _lo(h)_ 'grove', 'woods' (i.e.,
with
> _-(e)n(+e)_) we mentioned before, and a couple of websites I consulted
seem
> to confirm this.  So these areas are or used to be woodsy.

Loon:
Dutch: Borgloon, adj.: Loons
French: Looz, adj. lossain

Carnoy gives for loon an old dative plural of loo, so "in the woods"

Lo is quite common in Belgium (cf. Loonbeek, Loenhout ... Waterloo):

Indo-Eur. *louko ->  Germ: * lauha (Latin : lucus)

Semant.: clear place (leuk) --> free space, land (sanskr. loka: world) -->
woodland

Duisburg was also referred to a couple of days ago.

Belgium has also a Duisburg (1190: Dusborc)
Often identifyed with the Merovingian "Dispargum"

Försterman links it to "dus" (heap, pile), Dan. "dysse" (heap of stones)

Carnoy links it to the celtic+germanic "dheusio" ghost

Regards,

Roger

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