LL-L "Names" 2003.09.19 (20) [E]

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From: John Duckworth <jcduckworth2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: "Names"


Ron said:

"Perhaps *_lū+n_, where *_lū_ (< *_lūgh-_?) may be related to Old
English _lēaƽ_ >  _lēah_ > "lye", Middle Dutch _loghe_ > Mod. Dutch _loog_
(Mod. LS _louge_ > _loug'_) 'lye', Old German _louga_ > Mod. German _Lauge_
'lye',Old Norse _laug_ 'bath' < Germanic *_laugâ_ < *_lau-_ 'to wash' (cf.
Romance *_lav-_); also related to Old English _lēaðor_ > "lather", Old Saxon
_læthar_ (cf. Greek _λοετ ρόν_ ~ _λουτ ρόν_, Old Irish _loathar_
'washbasin')?"

Your suggestions make me think that the idea of a possible connection is not
as silly as it originally seemed. I remembered afterwards that although the
usual Hindi / Urdu name for 'salt' is the Persian loanword _nimak_, the word
_luun_ (_uu_ for long vowel) is also used, and it appears to come from the
Sanskrit _lavaN_ (where _N_ represents a retroflex nasal, often represented
by n with a dot under it), which has the same meaning.

Regards,

John,

Preston, UK.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

John:

> Your suggestions make me think that the idea of a possible connection is
not as silly as it
> originally seemed.

Sure.  But do bear in mind that what is now Northern Germany did apparently
not have a Celtic past.  So such a name would have to have its root in
Germanic or Slavonic.  I don't at the moment know what 'salt' and 'lye' are
in Polabian, but consider Polish _sol_/_lug_ and Czech _sůl_/_louh_.

Besides, there are also supposed to be pre-Germanic and pre-Slavonic names
in the area. (Isn't "Elbe" / "Laba" one of them?).

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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