LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.04.23 (02) [E]

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From: Ed Alexander <edsells at cogeco.ca>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.04.22 (14) [E]

At 04:59 PM 04/22/04 -0700, Kevin Caldwell wrote:
>Which reminds of a joke I heard in my childhood, probably from my father.
>Supposedly there was a small town just on the Georgia side of the
>Tennessee-Georgia border.  The name of the town was Plum Nelly, and the
>supposed origin of the name was that it was plum out of Tennessee and nelly
>out of Georgia.

Supposedly yore small town of Plum Nelly warnt no figment of yore pa's
imagination:  http://www.lookoutmountainpottery.com/

Ed Alexander, from another place on the continent where Yankees are looked
upon with suspicion....

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From: ezinsser at tiscali.co.za <ezinsser at tiscali.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.04.22 (12) [E]

Hi all,

Críostóir, you're asking:
> Would I be right in characterising the relationship between >Afrikaans and
standard
Dutch as similar to that between standard >English and Jamaican Creole
('Patois')? For
English speakers, the >hardest aspect of Patois to understand is the
phonology, rather
than >the syntax or lexicon.

It's a combination of phonology, lexicon, tone, accent, spead of talking,
etc. I've done 4
first and second year semesters of Nederlands studies (linguistics and
literature) after
reading a few books in high school, yet still have to ask Dutch speakers to
praat slow and
modulated. Any dialectical form throws me off although it's not going to
prevent me to try
and communicate.

I imagine Fred's hospitality worker picked up a few words here and there
/kaume/feef/ausyblieft/ - or whatever - to allow her to do her job, but for
the rest she's
not going to socialize in a tongue slightly familiar but lots of foreign.

Regards,
Elsie Zinsser

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From: Glenn Simpson <westwylam at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.04.22 (14) [E]

Dear all

Thanks for the authoriative comments on the highland
US English. I had this fwd to me from the Ulster-Scots
group in the US. I too thought some of the phrases
were not quite right, altho words like 'lowp' for 'jump'
are words very much associated with the Northumbrian
language.

Tek id easy,

Glenn Simpson
Northumbrian Language Society

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