LL-L "Etymology" 2004.08.24 (17) [E]

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From: Andy (Scots-Online) <andy at scots-online.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.08.24 (03) [E]

Glenn wrote:

> On the word 'lake' in Northumberland there is the
> occasional use of 'Lough', similar to Scots 'Loch'. In
> mid-Northumberland there is 'Sweethope Lough' where
> one can spend time doing a spot of fishing.

How is 'lough' pronounced? With /x/ as in Scots or /f/ or zero.

Andy [Eagle]

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From: Michael Keach <mike at keach.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.08.24 (11) [E]


From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.08.24 (02) [E/LS]

Mark wrote:
>One word, 'meer' refers to a body of water, as in 'Ysselmeer' (Nederland) &
>'Chrissiemeer' (South Africa).

Now, see?  This is really interesting to me:  Is it in any way a safe guess
that the latin 'maris' crept somehow into the northern tongues and dissolved
over time into "Meer"?  I'm familiar with the Spanish: del Mar, French: la
Mer, etc.  But, I don't believe I've ever thought much about 'Meer" being
somehow related until now.  I'm always comfortable with 'See' as to a
Germanic lake of any size (Switzerland often happily pushes the envelope by
tagging it onto what can only be described as a swimming hole!) but where
this 'meer' business originally came from is something very interesting.

Can't wait to hear from you on this.  BTW:  I've very much enjoyed the
threads lately.  Wonderful stuff!

Merci viele mal,

-Mike in Tampa

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