LL-L "Morphology" 2004.08.29 (08) [E]

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From: john feather <johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Morphology

I wrote: Thus 16 out of the 18 theoretically possible variations which can
be formed from te/(r/n), alle/n, tijd/e/n can actually be found in this
"database".

Kristoff replied:

>Well, "ter" would be rather strange, as it indicates a place, a location.
Like "ter plaatse" (at the location) or "ter hoogte van ... (bv.) de
knieën": at the height/location of (e.g.) the knees.

>"Ten" is an indication of time: "ten tijde van (bv.) de eerste
overstroming": during the times of (e.g.) the first flood.<

However strange some of these phrases are they have actually been written in
Nederlands!

"Ter" and "ten" are simply "te" + "der" and "te" + "den". "Der" is the
feminine definite article in the dat/gen sing and dat pl, so "ter plaatse"
and "ter hoogte" because "plaats" and "hoogte" are/were fem, not because
location is involved. Similarly lots of uses of "ten" where time is not
involved: "ten dienste/voordele van".

John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk

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