LL-L "Morphology" 2004.01.04 (02) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2004.01.26 (08) [E]

Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
> burgdal32admin heeft op dinsdag, 3 feb 2004 om 18:07 (Europe/Brussels)
> het volgende geschreven:
>
>>> From: Tom Maguire <jmaguire at pie.xtec.es>
>>> Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2004.01.26 (01) [E]
>>>
>>>> So the question is, do other latine languages have such a way to
>>>> express
>>>> future or is French the only to have it. In this case, it might be
>>>> one
>>> more
>>>> feature of Frankish influence on French which makes it the "most
>>>> germanic
>>>> of the latine languages" as i read it in a book about evolution of
>>>> the
>>>> French.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Frédéric Baert
>>>
>>> Hello Frederic and All,
>>>
>>> In  response to the Latin language question of proximate Future,
>>> Spanish
>>> has the formula "Voy a ir" which coincides with the French "Je vais y
>>> aller." to express future. Curiously enough the Catalan expression is
>>> "Vaig anar-hi." which means "I went", not "I am going to go.", as
>>> expected. I believe that the Roman/Latin language Empire was much
>>> more
>>> imposing than any other of the same epoch and that basic influence
>>> ran
>>> from Latin to Germanic and not inversely.
>>>
>>> Within these postings on "Morphology" is there an underlying
>>> desire/ideology to seek the Germanic influence on Latin?
>>> Given that Germania and Scotland were the only 2 areas that did not
>>> completely succumb to Roman influence in Northern Europe, is it
>>> really
>>> believable that the non-latin dialects would affect the latin
>>> dialects
>>> in their tenses forms?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tom
>
>> Hi Tom
>> There could  be a "desire" as you write here above, but i don't think
>> there is. I have to mentione that there is a 500 year(and more) old
>> desire to connect everything with a French/Latin influence. When
>> somebody even mentiones a German influence he is already 'suspected
>> of imperialisme" . In the birth of the French Language, the Frank
>> (old-Flemish) influence can not be underestimated, but has been for
>> meany centuries. And yes i know that it was the other way around in
>> the centuries to follow.
>> Old  Flanders (probably the original old Germania) was also not too
>> influenced by the Roman empire hence the continuing of the German and
>>  later the  Frankish language. Look at a map  and you will find
>> hughes numbers of  placenames in France with a German origine, up to
>> the Loire district and even further with language islands into Spain.
>> One example: What could one say of the origine of the word "Les
>> Landes" in the flat lands near Bordeaux?
>> I think there is a lot of work to do in France with people wo know
>> French and German languages.
>> Groetjes
>> luc vanbrabant
>> oekene

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