LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.06 (09) [E]

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From: Gavin Falconer <Gavin.Falconer at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.06 (07) [E]

Ron said:

"I often think about this and wonder if this "on" is unrelated to the usual
word "on," if it is related to Lowlands Saxon (Low German) _aan_ and German
_ohne_, meaning 'without'.  In LS you can say _aan end_ also, meaning
"without end," 'endless(ly)', German _endlos_ (also _ohne Ende_)."

Scots of course has its own privative prefix wan-, as in wanhowp, wanchance,
etc.  I don't think it's used productively any more, except perhaps by Scots
who know German ohn- and wish to create a reformed anti-Latinate language.

--
Gavin

Gavin Falconer

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Ah!  Thanks, Gavin!  You made my penny drop.  ;-)

Old English has _wan_ 'lacking' (= 'without'), and _wana_ 'lack', and I
assume "want" (_wan+t_ "lack"/"absence" > "need") is related to these.

Modern Lowlands Saxon (Low German) has for instance _wanschapen_
['va.nSQ:pm] for 'ugly'.  (I take it that this _schapen_ is related to
'create' and in this case refers to 'proper/pleasing form'.)

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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From: Wim <wkv at home.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.06 (07) [E]

>>From wim verdoold  wkv at home.nl

Hi

about "on end" how about "un ending"   as  a root for  that?

wim

http://members.home.nl/wkv/index.html

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