LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.23 (07) [D/E]

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: Etymology

Hello all Lowlanders,

In East-Brabant (Getelands) we have a  (perhaps moribund) word: 'strampen'
(practically exclusively used in the plural), meaning "leather leg-guard,
used by army officers (in previous times) and by hunters". Does anyone else
know this word? And does anyone have a clue as to the origin of this word.
Is it related to 'stram' ("stiff, rigid")?

Kind regards,

Roger Hondshoven

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From: Gustaaf van Moorsel <gvanmoor at aoc.nrao.edu>
Subject: Etymology

Roger:

Stephan Lemaitre (Bouchonlemaitre at aol.com <Bouchonlemaitre at aol.com>)
schreef:

 >Beste Gustaaf,
 >in het westvlaams zegt men niet "stroop" maar enkel "siroop",wat
 >dichter staat bij het oorspronkelijke "sirupus" (middeleeuws
 >latijn afkomstig van het arabisch "charab").
 >Hoe het komt dat men in het noorden begonnen is met stroop te zeggen,
 >zou ik ook wel eens willen weten.
 >Groetjes aan allen,
 >stephan lemaitre

In het Noord-nederlands bestaat 'siroop' ook nog steeds,
maar is daar iets was uitgeschonken kan worden en dan
vaak aangelengd met water, zoals 'limonadesiroop' of
'hoestsiroop'.

'Stroop' is veel moeilijker te schenken (vandaar het af-
geleide woord 'stroperig' -> 'viscous'), bijvoorbeeld
'appelstroop'.  Zonder voorvoegsel is 'stroop' hetzelfde
als rietsuikerstroop, en wordt gebruikt in klassieke
Nederlandse gerechten als pannekoeken en karnemelkse pap.
Er is nu zelfs een dunnere variant die wel makkelijk uit-
schenkt, en dan ook 'schenkstroop' heet'.

Gustaaf

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