LL-L "Language contacts" 2004.06.03 (03) [E]
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From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at scotstext.org>
Subject: "Language contacts" [E]
As most people know, sign languages often incorporate a fingerspelling
alphabet for spelling out words and abbreviations from oral languages.
Fingerspelling may be very heavily used (as in American Sign Language) or
hardly used at all (as in Danish Sign Language). Some sign languages are
spoken in countries where the hearing languages don't use an alphabet, so
fingerspelling is irrelevant: for example in Chinese sign languages the
Chinese character is just written with a finger on the palm of the hand or
in the air when a Chinese word needs to be indicated.
In nearly all sign languages which have a fingerspelling alphabet, the
letters are spelled using one hand, including those which use written
alphabets other than the Roman: Cyrillic and Greek alphabets are also
fingerspelled on one hand (this isn't to say that fingerspelling is always
the same for any given alphabet, however: Swedish, French, British and
American fingerspelling are all very different, for example - though
American and French fingerspelling are closely related - even though they
all use the Roman alphabet).
British Sign Language (BSL) is one of the exceptions, being fingerspelled on
two hands. Although Australian, New Zealand and Martha's Vineyard
(Massachussetts) sign languages also use two-handed fingerspelling systems,
these are descended from the British alphabet. The British two-handed
alphabet is in turn derived from Dalgrano's Glove, a fingerspelling system
devised by the Aberdonian George Dalgranoch around the year 1680.
Statistical analysis suggests that Dalgranoch based his system on Ogham
script, such as might be seen on standing stones in some parts of Britain.
I've heard from a Norwegian signer that although in Norway they don't use
fingerpelling much, they actually have two fingerspelling systems - one is
one-handed and the other two-handed. She said that they two-handed system
was very much like the British system except for the vowels. In the British
system there are five vowels, and a different finger is used for each one,
so it makes sense that in Norway they would have to alter the vowel system
to fit the Norwegian vowels.
But the question is, what's the historical connection between the UK and
Norway in this respect? Unfortunately the history of the Deaf isn't always
recorded and I don't think it's enough to just consider "mainstream" history
to establish sign language connections - there has to be some connection
between the Deaf in the UK and the Deaf in Norway. Any ideas?
Sandy
http://scotstext.org/
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language contacts
Thanks a lot, Sandy. This is really interesting. (And nice to know that
I'm not suddenly alone on this list.)
For the benefit of everyone (including myself), below are a few
finger-spelling-related links:
British:
http://www.learntosign.org.uk/fingerspelling.php
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fagb.htm
Scottish (?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/schottisch.htm
Irish (?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/irland.htm
Australian:
http://www.wadeaf.org.au/auslan.shtml#fingerspelling
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faaustral.htm
New Zealand:
http://www.deaf.co.nz/fingerspelling.html
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/neuseeland.htm
American (including Anglo-Canadian?):
http://where.com/scott.net/asl/abc.html
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fausa.htm
German:
http://www.kidsweb.de/schule/zeichen/fingerz.htm
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/deutschland.htm
Alternative, after Hironymus Lorm ("Lormenalfabet"),
apparently with similarities to the British and Scandinavian systems:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/lorm.htm
Dutch (Netherlands):
http://www.dovenschap.nl/main.php?sid=27&cat=vingerspelling
hand-on-hand method:
http://www.dovenschap.nl/main.php?sid=27&cat=vingerspelling%20op%20hand
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hverdonk/vingerspellen.html
Belgian (Non-Romance?):
http://gebaren.ugent.be/
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fabelgien.htm
Danish:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fadanemark.htm
Norwegian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fanorwe.htm
Swedish:
http://student.educ.umu.se/~anaflk00/udt16h02/handalfabetet.htm
Icelandic:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/island.htm
French (including Belgian and French-Canadian?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fafrankr.htm
Tanzanian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/tansania.htm
Italian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/italien.htm
Spanish (Spain, including Catalan and Galician?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faspanien.htm
Mexican:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/famexik.htm
Costa-Rican:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/facostaric.htm
Paraguayan:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faparagu.htm
Uruguayan:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faurug.htm
Venezuelan:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/venezuela.htm
Chilean:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fachile.htm
Argentinian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faarbetin.htm
Portuguese (Portugal):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/portugal.htm
Portuguese (Brazil):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fabrasil.htm
Romanian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/romanisch.htm
Serbo-Croatian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/yugoslawien.htm
Polish:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/polen.htm
Russian:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/russisch.htm
Greek:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fagreece.htm
Finnish:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fafinland.htm
Arabic (Egypt):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faagypten.htm
Hebrew:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/israel.htm
Ethiopian (only Amharic? Also for Tigrinya?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faatiop.htm
Indian (all languages?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/faindien.htm
Indonesian (only Bahasa Indonesia?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/indonesien.htm
Filipino (only for Tagalog, or others as well?):
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/philipinen.htm
Thai:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fathai.htm
Korean:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fakorea.htm
Japanese:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/japan.htm
Chinese:
Mainland: http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fachina.htm
Elsewhere: http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/fahongkong.htm
Phonemic System:
http://www.michaelszczepanski.de/PMS.htm
International Sign Lingua Franca:
http://www.innerspace.be/vingerspelling/index_off_line_en.htm
This seems like a nice selection for some comparison and research.
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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