LL-L "Grammar" 2004.06.30 (03) [D/E]
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From: Stella en Henno <stellahenno at hetnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Language use" 2004.06.30 (01) [E]
Tony schreef:
> read in a national news paper). One thing he would not teach, however, was
> how to conjugate verbs with "gij". This is, in my opinion, very
unfortunate
> as you *will* hear it everyday in Flanders, so it might be useful to know,
> even if you don't actually use it yourself. (And if anyone knows of a book
> or website with it, please contact me offlist.)
Wel, ik reageer even op de lijst zelf, aangezien andere leerders er wellicht
baat bij hebben.
Ik heb er even de ANS (algemene Nederlandse spraakkunst) bijgehaald, en die
vermeldt (2de druk) de (regelmatige) vormen op pagina 83 en 84.
In de tegenwoordige tijd: de -t vorm als bij "hij" (de t verdwijnt niet in
de inversie):
ge loopt, loopt ge? (zowel enkelvoud als meervoud)
[as an historical aside: gij/ge is the same as English "ye", (and Northern
Dutch jij, Low Saxon ji etc.)
and originally a plural form (like "vous" in French); originally it also was
"jullie komt"..]
ge vindt, vindt ge? etc.
In de verleden tijd wordt zwak gewoon -te of -de gebruikt:
ge werkte, ge leefde.
Sterk behoudt men een -t, hetgeen er vreemd uitziet: gij vondt, gij liept,
gij kwaamt
(met een uit het meervoud afkomstige lange a, vergelijk wij kwamen).
Als enkelvoud en meervoud sterk zijn en een verschillende lengte hebben
geldt dit steeds,
dus ook "ge naamt" bijv. (nam - namen). Steeds geldt dit voor enkelvoud en
meervoud.
Groeten,
Henno Brandsma
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