LL-L "Etymology" 2004.03.18 (05) [E/LS]

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymologyl" 2004.03.18 (03) [E]

The whole discussion about the "siddel van de topmast" sooo reminds me of
the first book I ever read in Dutch: "De scheepsjongens van Bontekoe"
(Bontekoe's Cabin Boys) by Willem Ysbrantsz. One of my favourite parts is
where the boy who accidentally stayed on the ship when it set sail because
he had fallen asleep, but would much rather be a brewer's apprentice, gets
violently seasick and the old hands on deck tell him that he has to find
"het zeeziekvrije plekkie", i.e. the one seasick-free spot that they say
exists on a ship.

Then somebody explains to him that all the horrible bouncing up and down and
swaying to and fro obviously comes from the waves - so the spot he's looking
for must be as far as possible from those nasty waves - and that would be
the crow's nest at the very top of the mast! Let it suffice to say that the
boy is very gullible and the result isn't pretty. :-)

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymologyl" 2004.03.18 (03) [E]

Oops, sorry, forgot my name:
[Gabriele Kahn]

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From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymologyl" 2004.03.18 (03) [E]

>   It turned out to be a nautical word. And its seems to be widely used in
>   English  and American english.
>
> Definition:   \Top"mast\, n. (Naut.)
> The second mast, or that which is next above the lower mast,
> and below the topgallant mast.

It is used in Danish as well. We also have the word "saddel" which is
found in other languages as well. It is the chair you use on a horse.

> Where i come from we say : Za'k je es veur de keub boeksen?
> In Grunnegs they use: Most klapp'n hebb'n?, or "Most du ein siddel an der
> topmast hebb'n? "
>
> It may sound confusing that i use "they". It is simple to explain. I come
> from a other part of the (east) netherlands, but i live in S-E Drenthe.
> And fascinated by that beautiful language which is spoken here.

Ik hold ook stim van dei Noordnedersaksische dialekt van Grünnen,
Noordenveld en Oostvreisland.

Groutnis,
Kenneth

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From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymologyl" 2004.03.18 (03) [E]

There is a book with called something like Grunneger spreekwoorden,
which might be of some help. I seem to recall that it is written by Jan
J. Boer - but I might be wrong.

Cheers, Kenneth

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