LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.11.17 (02) [E]

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From: Tom Carty <cartyweb at hotmail.com>
Subject: Bargy and Forth Dialects. Also Palatine German.

Has anyone any information on the dialects of Forth and Bargy in Co.
Wexford, Ireland?

As far as I know, they were from Norman times, but it was more Norman
English than Norman French. They are akin to the dialects on the channell
islands.

Is it widely spoken? What websites are there on these dialects?

On another scene: is there any remaining traces of the Palatine German of
the setlters in Limerick and Kilkenny? Words, phrases etc.

Tom Carty
http://www.teanganua.pro.ie

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Fáilte ar ais, a Thom!

I wish I knew more about topics you asked about above.  I do know about a
web presentation about the Yola dialect of Forth and Bargy, with a few
language samples:
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~taghmon/histsoc/vol3/chapter4/chapter4.htm

Apparently it is a very archaic varieties of English with noticeable
influences from Irish, Manx and Flemish.  A peculiarity is that what is /f-/
in other varieties is /v-/ in Yola (e.g., _vire_, _vamilee_, _vather_,
_vowre_ (four), _veeve_ (five)), while what is _wh-_ elsewhere is /f-/
(e.g., faade (what)).  Also, interestingly, 'I' is _ich_!

There is also a list of Yola words here:
http://www.iol.ie/~wexfordways/Stories_1/John_Barry/Wexford_Words/wexford_words.html

Here and there I notice Continental Lowlands words, such as _pismire_ 'ant'
(Cf. Lowlands Saxon _piss-myr(e)_).

Sin sin, níl aon scéal eile agam. Slán go fóill!

Reinhard/Ron

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