LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.11.29 (03) [A/German]

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From: ezinsser at icon.co.za <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2004.11.28 (08) [G/A]

Dag almal,

Ingmar Roerdinkholder skryf:
>dsch- [dZ] für j-, wie in Dschungen. Es erinnert an Kleurling >Afrikaans
>djy, djou für
Afr. jy, jou usw. die niedersachsiche >Mundarte diese dsch aber nicht, oder?
Felix oder
Reinhard, wer von >euch kann das vielleicht erklären?

Ek sou die 'djy' en 'djou' vorme nie 'Kleurling' Afrikaans noem nie, maar
eerder 'Kaapse
Afrikaans'.

Ek is seker dat Platt asook Plautdietsch die dsch-vorme het, gebaseer op
Franse leenvorme?

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Elsie (hierbo):

> Ek is seker dat Platt asook Plautdietsch die dsch-vorme het,
> gebaseer op Franse leenvorme?

Hmmm ... ek is nie seker of dit op Franse leenvorme gebaar is nie.  Maar,
ja, hierdie j- > -dj- ~ -dsj- verandering is baie verbrei in Nedersaksies
(Nederduits), besonders in suidwestlike gebieden en in die gebied van die
Neder-Elbe, ook in die "Missingsch"-Duits-dialekte van die Neder-Elbe.

Maar dit verandering kom alleen in die begin van 'n woord voor.

Groete,
Reinhard/Ron

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