LL-L "Language politics" 2004.09.10 (11) [E]

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From: Tom <jmaguire at pie.xtec.es>
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2004.09.10 (07) [E]

Hello All,

There have been a few postings now on the language/country/power
politics subject.

English now seems to be accepted as a global lingua franca. My
experience is that when we are in a non-English speaking country I leave
most of the talking in English to my Spanish wife. She seems to be able
to communicate in this lingua franca much better than me.
I have concluded that global English is another language. What will we
call it?

Regards,

Tom [Maguire]

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From: john feather <johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Language politics

Mark Brenchley wrote:
>multilingualism in English seems to continue until ... at least until just
after Shakespeare's time. G. L. Brock in "The Language of Shakespeare",
gives a remarkably simple explanation for the use of three nouns/adjectives
in succession in many of the plays (One Latinate, one "Teutonic", one French
(if I remember correctly) - to ensure that all sections of the audience
would have at least some idea of what was going on.<

That's fascinating.

Something which has puzzled me ever since I first noticed it is the scene in
Henry V in which Katherine is taught English. It leads up to the demure-ish
princess pronouncing the words "foot" and "gown" but both with a long "oo"
and so presumably to be heard as the French words "foutre" and "con". A joke
the groundlings didn't get would have been a theatrical disaster, especially
if the stage-side Johnnies had got it and laughed. It seems that these
foreign words, at least, must have been well-known to a London audience.

John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk

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