LL-L "Grammar" 2004.09.27 (07) [E]

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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2004.09.26 (10) [E]

Ron:

Many years ago at my office I had the occasion to say: "I bought me a
shirt."  Well!...I was sharply and quickly corrected by one of my
co-workers, a woman who hailed from Ohio.  She went to great pains to tell
me how wrong that was.  It didn't make me stop saying it though ;-).

Anyway, later I had the privilege to hear her say, "She come over to my
house late last night."  She used that form of come all the time in the past
tense in place of "came."  I never called her on it though.  No use to just
stir up sump'm.  Now, if I could just get my shoulder to quit hurtin' from
pattin' myself on the back.

Mark Brooks

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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2004.09.27 (03) [E]

John asked:
"What is the grammatical term for the f****** word in this situation? I
searched but couldn't find out."
I would call it an "intensifying affix" ;-).  Not only can it be a prefix,
it can also be an infix as in "unf******believable".  However, you could
consider that a "secondary intensifying prefix" if you so desired.

BTW, if you look closely on the website you mentioned, you'll see that one
of the lines Bart Simpson has written on the board is www.mrburns.nl
<http://www.mrburns.nl> .  I tried it and it works!
Mark Brooks

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From: Uilleam Òg mhic Sheumais <goidel.glas at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2004.09.26 (10) [E]

Latha math, Lowlanders;

Ron wrote:
> Non-specific:
> (1) I'll go and get some cookies.
>
> Specific:
> (2) I'll go and get me some cookies.
> (3) I'll go and get you some cookies.
> (4) I'll go and get him some cookies.
> (5) I'll go and get us some cookies.
> (6) I'll go and get them some cookies.
> (7) We'll go and get us some cookies.
> (8) You'll go and get you some cookies.
> (9) He'll go and get him some cookies.
> (10) They'll go and get them some cookies.
> (11) He'll go and get himself some cookies.
> (12) They'll go and get themselves some cookies.
> (13) I'll go and get myself some cookies.
> (14) You'll go and get yourself/yourselves some cookies.
> (15) We'll go and get ourselves some cookies.

As a native English speaker, I can only say what sounds 'natural' to
me - so I'll go ahead and do that. 1 sounds like a joke, or
affectation, in my dialect. 2 sounds fine; likewise for 3 & 4. 5 seems
like it would mean "I'll go and get *us* some cookies" - in exclusion
to anyone else who may be in earshot or in the room. Otherwise, it's
similar to 1. 6 seems fine as well. 7 seems like it should be 15, 8
should be 14, 9 should be 11, 10 should be 12, 1 should be 13... At
least, in my version of English, that's what 'feels' most natural. So
that's that, for what it's worth.

Beannachdan,
Uilleam Òg mhic Sheumais

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From: Uilleam Òg mhic Sheumais <goidel.glas at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2004.09.26 (11) [E]

Latha math, Lowlanders;

Ron wrote:
> For instance, if one says "I'm gonna get me
> some more of that chicken," it changes the tone, putting a funny spin on
the
> speaker's "gluttony," and at the same time it may serve as a compliment to
> the one who prepared the food (which is so good that you want to go for
> seconds), especially if "that" is emphasized by lengthening the vowel.

This is exactly what I was trying to get at in my previous e-mail.
It's a humorous way of saying it, sort of self-deprecating, too.

Beannachdan,
Uilleam Òg mhic Sheumais

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