LL-L "Grammar" 2005.12.21 (08) [D/E]

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21 December 2005 * Volume 08
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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2005.12.21 (03) [E]

Kevin said: " >I also only say /haf to/ in the sense of must. When I
say something like "I >have two of those," (even with the emphasis on
"have") the /v/ is voiced."

I agree.  In fact I believe we're actually dealing with two
different verbs.  There is have in the sense of possess, and there is hafto
in the sense of must.  I really see them as different words entirely.  Hafto
is pronounced as one word with the stress on the first syllable.  "Have two"
are two different words, so there's no stress factor involved.

What are your thoughts?

Mark Brooks

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From: Roland Desnerck <desnerck.roland at skynet.be>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2005.12.21 (03) [E]

Beste Lowlandertjes,
Misschien interessant mee te delen dat het Nederlands ook een woord kent
voor bezit, bezittingen, namelijk "have" in de uitdrukking: mijn have en
goed = alles wat ik bezit!
Toe tnoaste ki
Roland Desnerck, Oostende, West-Vlaanderen

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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2005.12.21 (03) [E]

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>whereas a
written form should portray the way a language is
spoken and not the other way round.
<

Then all teenagers in the UK will be writing
nuffink
sumfink
anyfink

there no good

or alternatively

they're friends like football

bruvver
muvver
farver

etc etc

Individually between friends , texting or in letters,  write as you speak.

Otherwise education is all about learning the accepted standard of written
language.


And that includes all those people whose attitude to life is " Why should
anyone tell me what to do" ........................

Heather 

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